well after hassling bwr and phil for a few hours, and fixing the many things id done wrong, ive managed to get the damn thing working, still trying to find a stable speed to run at, seems my CPU is a bit naff, will send it to phil to test, see if he has any luck, on 3.75ghz i was running prime 95 at +15deg C! yet idle was -20-30deg - wots that about? :S thats at 1.8V