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hi, i'm new to the forums.

well i been tempted to use water cooling and after some research i started to make a list to see how much it will cost me. here is where i run into problems :P

1)i think some one told me that depending on do i have a dual or quad core i might need a different cpu water block, so if i have a quad which is best?

2)also i found some people using black ice radiators over thermochill, i was told thermochill 120.3 was the best 360mm rad. so which rad is best now?

3)also if i was to use 1/2" barbs on everything what size tubing do i need? i just found out there was something called inner diameter =/

4)o and what is the spiral anti kink stuff for? to stop kink of course, but whats kink =/

5)o and what pump should i use? it will be going through CPU water block, and a gpu block (don't know what block yet because i was going to get one for gtx 260-216 later on).

thanks for your help :D
 
noobieocer said:
hi, i'm new to the forums.

well i been tempted to use water cooling and after some research i started to make a list to see how much it will cost me. here is where i run into problems :P

1)i think some one told me that depending on do i have a dual or quad core i might need a different cpu water block, so if i have a quad which is best?

2)also i found some people using black ice radiators over thermochill, i was told thermochill 120.3 was the best 360mm rad. so which rad is best now?

3)also if i was to use 1/2" barbs on everything what size tubing do i need? i just found out there was something called inner diameter =/

4)o and what is the spiral anti kink stuff for? to stop kink of course, but whats kink =/

5)o and what pump should i use? it will be going through CPU water block, and a gpu block (don't know what block yet because i was going to get one for gtx 260-216 later on).
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Hello mate and welcome to OC3D:)

1) While some older blocks performed better on dual-core CPU's (Swiftech Storm for example) most modern waterblocks will perform acceptably on quad-core CPU's. I'd recommend the D-TEK FuZion v.2; Swiftech Apogee GTZ; XSPC X2O Delta v.3 and the EK Supreme for quad-cores.

2) The main differences between the BI radiators and the Thermochill's are: Thermochill 120.3's perform very well with lower speed fans (quieter) and they are less restrictive than BI rads. The Thermochill's have a greater depth which means a greater cooling surface area than the thinner BI rads. I'd take a Thermochill PA120.3 rad over a BI rad.

3) The difference in temperatures from using 3/8"; 1/2" or 7/16" tubing is negligible. If you want to use 1/2" barbs and don't mind the appearance of worm drive clips then you can use 1/2" tubing. However, some people like the cleaner look of 1/2" barbs and 7/16" tubing where you don't need worm drive clips to prevent the tubing from slipping off.

4) Kink is where the wall of the tubing begins to flatten/compress under the pressure of bending around a curve - this becomes an issue on tight curves because flow is inhibited (or worst case scenario...stopped completely). XSPC eliminate the need for anti-kink methods by increasing the thickness of their tubing substantially. The only issue that this causes is that it means you may have to move up to a larger worm drive clip to hold it in place on the barb. The tighter the bend radius of the tubing (without kinking), usually means an increase in the price per metre to the cost of the tubing. Google for the different types of tubing to see what I mean - Primoflex; Tygon; Masterkleer; Clearflex 60; XSPC High Flex etc etc etc. Personally I've always found the XSPC High Flex really easy to work with and it's cheap as...

5) When looking for a pump you need to consider coolant flow rate and head pressure. High flow will mean that the pump can provide more than adequate flow of coolant throughout your water-cooling loop, and the increased head pressure means that it will counter flow restriction better than a pump with low head pressure. With a high-flow CPU block, full-cover GPU block and radiator, a Laing DDC Pro would handle it ok. If you wanted to add a reservoir and NB/SB/PWM cooling to your loop then a DDC Ultra pump would be required. Make sure you get an alternative top for the DDC pump to increase both flow and head pressure.

I hope this helps :)
 
name='PV5150' said:
Hello mate and welcome to OC3D:)

1) While some older blocks performed better on dual-core CPU's (Swiftech Storm for example) most modern waterblocks will perform acceptably on quad-core CPU's. I'd recommend the D-TEK FuZion v.2; Swiftech Apogee GTZ; XSPC X2O Delta v.3 and the EK Supreme for quad-cores.

2) The main differences between the BI radiators and the Thermochill's are: Thermochill 120.3's perform very well with lower speed fans (quieter) and they are less restrictive than BI rads. The Thermochill's have a greater depth which means a greater cooling surface area than the thinner BI rads. I'd take a Thermochill PA120.3 rad over a BI rad.

3) The difference in temperatures from using 3/8"; 1/2" or 7/16" tubing is negligible. If you want to use 1/2" barbs and don't mind the appearance of worm drive clips then you can use 1/2" tubing. However, some people like the cleaner look of 1/2" barbs and 7/16" tubing where you don't need worm drive clips to prevent the tubing from slipping off.

4) Kink is where the wall of the tubing begins to flatten/compress under the pressure of bending around a curve - this becomes an issue on tight curves because flow is inhibited (or worst case scenario...stopped completely). XSPC eliminate the need for anti-kink methods by increasing the thickness of their tubing substantially. The only issue that this causes is that it means you may have to move up to a larger worm drive clip to hold it in place on the barb. The tighter the bend radius of the tubing (without kinking), usually means an increase in the price per metre to the cost of the tubing. Google for the different types of tubing to see what I mean - Primoflex; Tygon; Masterkleer; Clearflex 60; XSPC High Flex etc etc etc. Personally I've always found the XSPC High Flex really easy to work with and it's cheap as...

5) When looking for a pump you need to consider coolant flow rate and head pressure. High flow will mean that the pump can provide more than adequate flow of coolant throughout your water-cooling loop, and the increased head pressure means that it will counter flow restriction better than a pump with low head pressure. With a high-flow CPU block, full-cover GPU block and radiator, a Laing DDC Pro would handle it ok. If you wanted to add a reservoir and NB/SB/PWM cooling to your loop then a DDC Ultra pump would be required. Make sure you get an alternative top for the DDC pump to increase both flow and head pressure.

I hope this helps :)
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ty answered all my questions :D

i found this on watercooling uk

12V Laing DDC-1T Ultra (x2)w/Dual EK Dual Turbo Pump Top

that's the dcc ultra pump right?
 
ThermoChill PA120.3 ThermoChill PA120.3***

- Barb Size 1/2" Nickel Plated

£50.15 Excl VAT (£57.67) Incl VAT

EK-Supreme CPU - Acetal Universal EK-Supreme CPU - Acetal Universal

- Barb Size 1/2" Nickel Plated

£28.07 Excl VAT (£32.28) Incl VAT

7/16" ID - 5/8" OD Clear/UV Blue Hose (XSPC) 7/16" ID - 5/8" OD Clear/UV Blue Hose (XSPC)

- Hose Length 2 Meters

£4.24 Excl VAT (£4.88) Incl VAT

50ml Red G12 Corrosion Inhibitor 50ml 50ml Red G12 Corrosion Inhibitor 50ml

£1.95 Excl VAT (£2.24) Incl VAT

PrimoChill Black PVC Hose Clip 1/2" OD (10 Pack) PrimoChill Black PVC Hose Clip 1/2" OD (10 Pack)

£3.85 Excl VAT (£4.43) Incl VAT

Laing DDC Top/w Reservoir (XSPC) Laing DDC Top/w Reservoir (XSPC)

- Barb Size 1/2" Nickel Plated

- Need a pump? 12V Laing DDC1+ Ultra 18W

- Need us to build it? Yes

£65.31 Excl VAT (£75.11) Incl VAT

XSPC Full Cover Razor GTX260 - Acetal XSPC Full Cover Razor GTX260 - Acetal

okay that's what i got, anything i missed out? any corrections? btw out of all the cpu water blocks you recommended which one preforms the best? i do only put water and that anti corosive stuff in the loop right? nothing else is needed?

sorry cant post a pic becuase aint got 15 posts yet
 
You cant use tap water no mate, distilled water at a push but you are better of using a premixed coolant like feser.
 
name='tinytomlogan' said:
You cant use tap water no mate, distilled water at a push but you are better of using a premixed coolant like feser.
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ooo i was gona use de-ionised water but feser stuff sound easier as its premixed :P i look into it, mean while is there any performance differences in the cpu water blocks?
 
name='noobieocer' said:
ooo i was gona use de-ionised water but feser stuff sound easier as its premixed :P i look into it, mean while is there any performance differences in the cpu water blocks?
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Yes, they can make a large difference.

Feser One is good, UV reactive, and more importantly is non-conducting, so if something goes badly wrong, and the coolant goes everywhere, your computer wont (shouldn't?) Short out.
 
name='tinytomlogan' said:
That only works if your pc isnt dusty though :(
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dust affects the water inside the loop? :O

anywayz i saw a few reviews and decided to go with XSPC X2O Delta v.3 :D cheap and only 1 c above apogee gtz
 
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