New Macbook Air and Windows XP
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Dicehunter
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Just telling the truth
My brother worked for Apple for 1 year and said he would gladly throw all of them to the sharks, Biggest "A" holes in the industry, Quite a lot of times he had to bite his tongue because some hipster Douchebag CEO talked down to him because he pointed out something logical or corrected something that was wrong, Didn't follow the sheep in the company or just didn't agree with someone who was being a dick.
I've known others who have worked for overpriced Apple and said they would gladly watch that company go out of business and be happy about it
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Just telling the truth
My brother worked for Apple for 1 year and said he would gladly throw all of them to the sharks, Biggest "A" holes in the industry, Quite a lot of times he had to bite his tongue because some hipster Douchebag CEO talked down to him because he pointed out something logical or corrected something that was wrong, Didn't follow the sheep in the company or just didn't agree with someone who was being a dick.
I've known others who have worked for overpriced Apple and said they would gladly watch that company go out of business and be happy about it
There's no hope for apple. Once it no longer is so mainstream for teens who need macs to check Facebook, Apple will die horribly, or have to change direction. Either way I'm satisfied.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Very true but sadly you always get the idiots i.e hipsters, Defending companies like apple
I agree. I regularly have debates/arguments with said "hipsters" about why they choose to invest in for example a Mac Book Pro. They always say something stupid like ease of use, or whatever they say, but in the end they always end up saying that they like it because its "cool". Once I was talking to my school principal about why he had bought a mac. He actually brought up the whole ease of use thing. Unfortunately I couldn't really have a proper argument with him for obvious reasons, though. I guess hes just a hipster
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
I agree. I regularly have debates/arguments with said "hipsters" about why they choose to invest in for example a Mac Book Pro. They always say something stupid like ease of use, or whatever they say, but in the end they always end up saying that they like it because its "cool". Once I was talking to my school principal about why he had bought a mac. He actually brought up the whole ease of use thing. Unfortunately I couldn't really have a proper argument with him for obvious reasons, though. I guess hes just a hipster
Either a hipster or just isn't informed enough
I do admit that yes apple products are pretty and easy to use but it just annoys me when someone says "Apple is good value for money" or "I got it because it's cool" Gets my blood boiling ^_^
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Either a hipster or just isn't informed enough
I do admit that yes apple products are pretty and easy to use but it just annoys me when someone says "Apple is good value for money" or "I got it because it's cool" Gets my blood boiling ^_^
Whenever someone says something that stupid, I don't even argue, I just laugh. Its not worth having that conversation because their brains probably cant handle the truth...
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
True, My right eye usually starts to twitch when in the presence of idiots like that lol ^_^
1 thing that really pissed me off a few months ago was a friend of mine bought a macbook pro and then sat down next to a work mate of mine who had his Aorus X7 v2-CF1 with him and said -
"Yeah my apple walks all over your laptop"
His apple macbook pro is the is the 15-inch: 2.3GHz, Needless to say this friend of mine left a few minutes later when he got told the specs of the aorus and when he realized he just paid a HUGE amount more for a laptop that is no where near as good as the Aorus just because it has the Apple branding.
He now also owns a Aorus X7 v2-CF1 ^_^
For example here is the specs of the basic 15" Macbook pro which STARTS at £2199.99 with the basic features-
- 2.3GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.5GHz
- 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
- 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
- Intel Iris Pro Graphics
- NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M
with 2GB GDDR5 memory - Backlit Keyboard (British) & User's Guide (English)
- Accessory Kit
And here is the Aorus which in total costs £1749.99 -
- - Screen Size: 17.3"
- - Screen Type: LCD
- - Backlight: LED
- - Screen Resolution: 1920x1080 Full HD
- - Processor: Intel Core i7-4860HQ, 2.4~3.6GHz
- - Processor Clock Speed: 2.4GHz ~ 3.6GHz (Overclock)
- - Graphics Chipset: 2 x NVIDIA GTX 860M SLI GDDR5
- - Graphics Memory: 4GB each (8GB Total)
- - Chipset: Mobile Intel® HM87 Express Chipset
- - Hard Drive: 1TB 7200rpm
- - SSD Drive: 3 x 128GB (RAID 0)
- - Memory Supplied: 2 x 8GB
- - Memory Size: 16GB
- - Memory Socket: 4 x SO-DIMM
- - Max. Memory Support: 32GB
- - Operating System: Windows 8.1
- - Audio: 2 x Speakers, 2 x Woofers, Microphone, AORUS Acoustic+ Technology
- - LAN: Killer LAN Chip E2201
- - Wireless LAN: 802.11ac
- - Bluetooth Version: v4.0
- - Webcam: 1.0 Megapixel
- - USB 3.0 Port(s): 3
- - USB 2.0 Port(s): 2
- - HDMI Port(s): 1
- - Mini Display Port(s): 1
- - Surround Port(s): 1
- - Card Reader: SD
- - Microphone Jack(s): 1
- - Headphone Jack(s): 1
- - Security: Kensington Lock
- - Battery: Li Polymer, 73.26Wh
- - Dimension: 392 x 263 x 22.9mm
- - Weight: 2.99Kgs
- - Warranty: 2 Years
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barnsley
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Nope.
Its £1699 and it has:
- Retina display with 2560 x 1600 resolution
- Advanced all-flash architecture
- 2.4GHz dual core Intel® Core™ i5 processor (Turbo Boost up to 2.9GHz) with 3Mb shared L3 cache
- Intel® Iris Graphics
- Two Thunderbolt ports for connecting high-performance devices and transferring data at lightning speed
- Two USB 3 ports (compatible with USB 2 devices) and HDMI
- FaceTime HD camera
- Multi-Touch trackpad
- Up to 9 hours of battery life
- OS X Mavericks
- 8Gb RAM
- 256Gb Solid State Drive
Also, still nice to see you guys are comparing laptops that are for different markets. You're comparing what is effectively an Ultrabook (light, pretty screen, minimalist design, high build quality) with a gaming laptop I'm not an Apple fan but c'mon. Compare them like for like. Find an Ultrabook with similar/better specifications for cheaper.
You're both not the target market. Trust me, I'd have a macbook air (as I need something super light with a nice screen and fantastic build quality) if I hadn't been able to get a great deal on my Ultrabook.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
You misread dude, Comparing a quad core with a quad core not a quad with a duel core, also trying to get as close to the Aorus as possible size wise and 15" is the biggest apple seem to do.
Aorus has a quad core and 2 Nvidia cards in SLI each with 4GB of memory and is £1750, mac with a quad core and a low end GPU is 2200, Yes the mac has a 1600P screen and is only 18mm thick but the aorus is only 22mm thick and is also fantastic build quality, See reason and logic, Apple is a ripoff.
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barnsley
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My point still stands however. To call the MBP a gaming laptop is dumb. So why compare it to a gaming laptop?
I guess, because of the price. If it costs more than a gaming laptop, it should at least perform similarly in my opinion.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
When did I call the mac a gaming laptop ? Oh that's right I didn't, Please don't put words in my mouth dude that's a bit of a douchey thing to do.
So with the apple one you just described, You would be totally ok with spending the same amount of money on a laptop with half the ram, Half the Physical cores, No dedicated GPU ? No extra storage space but a higher res screen ?
No offense mate but that's very dumb, As Madden said, If it costs more or the same I expect it to either perform as fast or faster if it's more expensive.
And as I said earlier which you obviously missed, The argument wasn't over a macbook air vs a gaming laptop, it was about a macbook pro vs a gaming laptop.
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barnsley
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Even though it has a 1600p screen, weighs less, has better warranty, runs a (imho crappy) OS that works much more efficiently with professional programs etc etc.
Yeah, as you can tell, most of us on here aren't the target market for Macbooks. People will bitch about Apple products all day because they're really not the right type of users for them. Same goes for the equally expensive, ultra light windows ultrabooks as well. I personally would be happy to sacrifice some performance for lightness and a pretty screen. Why? Because I already have a powerful-ish desktop. The macbook air is partially designed for that market (its also designed for people who want lightness above all). The pro is designed to be a laptop for photographers and people who need a bit more grunt than the air on the go. the professional photographer I know has a MBP for shooting on sight/ editing when they're away from home. He also has an old style Powermac (the old desktop apple) for heavy duty work/ storage.
I know you were comparing the pro with a gaming laptop. Its not hard to see that with the specifications you posted. I can read
. Its comparing tools designed for two different purposes. That is what I'm saying. I'd personally happily pay for something that is lighter and has a pretty screen over a damn gaming laptop. Infact that is what I did relatively recently where I shelled out the best part of £1k for a laptop that is nearly as thin as my monitor, has a lovely screen, is solidly built, doesn't have tonnes of LEDs and gaming branding. I bought a Lenovo yogapad pro (basically this one, the £1119 i7). I don't need a gaming laptop (its almost as if I have a desktop or two to choose from if I want to do something intensive ;P ) so I'm very happy to fork out that amount of money for something that isn't one. Not everyone in the world who buys an expensive laptop needs/wants something that chucks out loads of heat, is relatively noisy, has a (comparatively) poor screen and is a pain in the ass to get fixed when it breaks. Just because you want something different for the money doesn't mean its crap.
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Yeah, it would have been wrong to compare a MacBook Air, to a gaming laptop, but we're not. That would be silly, because the Air is basically an ultrabook. However the Pro is meant to be a fully fledged powerful laptop, but it cant even touch similarly priced windows laptops (They could be called gaming laptops).
Edit: Didn't see Feronix' post. Ill get back on topic then
Edit: Didn't see Feronix' post. Ill get back on topic then
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
As has already been said which you obviously missed, Me and Madden were discussing macbook pro vs Aorus, Not the macbook air.
Enough ? oook, We are discussing the pricing difference of computers not hating just not liking their pricing structure.
Exactly my point but some people just don't want to hear the facts.
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barnsley
born in a.....
Read my post I had edited. I was busy writing you a reply.
Feronix
New member
This has just turned into an Apple vs non-Apple/ yes vs no discussion that isn't getting anywhere. To add to that, this isn't helping OP in any way, considering they're not even looking for a gaming laptop or even a high-end one like the Macbook Pro you guys were discussing.
If you really want to continue the Apple discussion then feel free to post your own thread, but this has gone way off-topic.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
I can see the logic behind it if your on your feet all day or you carry the laptop around with you i.e you need something light with long battery life but most people who buy macbook air/pro have them sat on a desk so why not opt for the more powerful variant if it costs the same in that situation, That's all I'm trying to get across really
If you care to read back a fair few paragraphs you'll see the OP just bought a laptop which when he gets it I'm guessing he'll stick XP on which is why me and Madden started having a discussion but since this offends you we can take it to a dedicated thread.
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