New gameing build

[Karlos_the_n00b]

To be honest im building a big machine myself and i would keep the i7970, Thats what im going for. And then i would drop the 580 dollar asus MObo and go with a G1 Sniper. You get alot more for the buck there. Or you could get the assassin but you are not using 4 way sli. Stick with the x58 build. If you would like. Im just saying you could save about 140 dollars if you go with the G1 Sniper MOBO. And with that you could pick up a 590 or get a small ssd for boot drive. That is sata 3 6/gbs compatible. But thats just me.

You notice when people are on about the the sniper and the assassin how the difference is always that PCI-E slot and almost never the fact that the assassin has 16 phase power instead of the 8 phase power the sniper has? Why is that, is 16 phase power just not important or just a gimmick or summet? I thought 16 phase power was like an overclocker's dream?

 

[Cigarjohn]

Funnily enough I only found this this morning. Anyway, you may want to read this before going with the Intel 510: http://www.anandtech...d-510-review/14 They also have a review of the vertex 3 that you may want to look at. The Crucial C300 is good for the money, but the performance isn't as good as the more expensive vertex 3.

As for motherboards You could always go read Toms review of the Maximus (well I think its toms review) and the UD7 but in my opinion I'd go with the UD7 for looks and for the fact that it got the performance award which the maximus didn't.

I also agree with trying the onboard sound first and then buying a new sound card if your really not happy.

Edit: Just checked and it wasn't Toms review at all, it was Bryan Waters review. I apologise.

Also, the UD7 will allow 2 @ x16, x16 lanes on sli compared to the Maximus IV which only allows x16 in one slot only and if you add a second card, it will drop down to x8, x8. But the Maximus IV has many great features to boot. It all depends on your needs. If I were to go with a Maximus IV I'd purchase the GTX-590 and use the 1 x16 slot or purchase the UD7 and use 2 GTX-560, 570 or 580's on its x16 PCI-E lanes.

The onbaord sound is good but you will always have better quality sound from a add-on board. The add-on board takes the stress off of the CPU also for better overall performance.

I hope I've helped you. If not, I'm sorry to have confused you.

Peace and good luck with you system build.

 

[Karlos_the_n00b]

Also, the UD7 will allow 2 @ x16, x16 lanes on sli compared to the Maximus IV which only allows x16 in one slot only and if you add a second card, it will drop down to x8, x8. But the Maximus IV has many great features to boot. It all depends on your needs. If I were to go with a Maximus IV I'd purchase the GTX-590 and use the 1 x16 slot or purchase the UD7 and use 2 GTX-560, 570 or 580's on its x16 PCI-E lanes.

The onbaord sound is good but you will always have better quality sound from a add-on board. The add-on board takes the stress off of the CPU also for better overall performance.

I hope I've helped you. If not, I'm sorry to have confused you.

Peace and good luck with you system build.

You may want to take a look at these:

SLI Using Dual PCIe 16x vs 8x

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=NFMzRZqFh-w

Radeon HD 6990 Bandwidth Comparison Test 16x vs 8x vs 4x

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=rSfifE2Domo

However, here he's only using 1 monitor. When you start using multi monitor setups you start to really benefit from two x16 lanes.

I'd still go with the UD7 don't get me wrong, I just wanted to show how two x16 lanes may not be as important as you think, depending on your monitor setup.

 

[Excalabur50]

This rig sounds like its going to be awesome, and as to the ud7 or the asus board i was going to get the ud7 until i read TTL's review on the asus board where he awarded it the Gold award and Tom don't give those out lightly.So i will be changing over to the asus board maybe you should too!

 

[djcwarren@hotmail.com]

Yeah but you dont get any x1 slots for sounds cards on that 1 (the only 1 will get covered by ther GPU) and i cant say i like the 1 on the UD7 at the top. I am acctually considering going back to my original specs with the Rampage Black Edition with the i7-970. Ive done the math and the total price increase if you include a decent sound card and the RAM etc. for the UD7/ASUS max. is only about 100 pounds more. I can definitely live with that plus the fact that ill be able to use all 6 GB of my RAM + the BE board is 1 sexy beast with a good soundcard for headsets(which is all i use). Its not like ill notice a performance drop in my games with a 970 now is it ^^, its still 1 beastly CPU.

Besides who want to OC on the 1155, looks rather boring imho

 

[Karlos_the_n00b]

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Yeah but you dont get any x1 slots for sounds cards on that 1 (the only 1 will get covered by ther GPU) and i cant say i like the 1 on the UD7 at the top. I am acctually considering going back to my original specs with the Rampage Black Edition with the i7-970. Ive done the math and the total price increase if you include a decent sound card and the RAM etc. for the UD7/ASUS max. is only about 100 pounds more. I can definitely live with that plus the fact that ill be able to use all 6 GB of my RAM + the BE board is 1 sexy beast with a good soundcard for headsets(which is all i use). Its not like ill notice a performance drop in my games with a 970 now is it ^^, its still 1 beastly CPU.

Besides who want to OC on the 1155, looks rather boring imho

If your seriously considering it then watch the video above but then defiantly watch this http://www.youtube.c.../28/0q2LTPwi99I and if you don't want to watch the whole thing then forward it to the 27th minute and watch from there. Might just help you make your mind up

Edit: For me the bottom line at the moment is that you really can not beat sandy bridge at moment when it comes to gaming and the performance you get for the money you spend. A 2500K in a Sabertooth P67 will give you blistering gaming performance for about £350, that's a bargain. And the £270 2600K in gaming will out perform the £900 990X.

BUT, at the end of the day I think the X58 just has a coolness factor that's in a different league to the sandy's. If you get a descent overclock on one of those then its something you can be proud of.[/font]

 

[Karlos_the_n00b]

Shameful double post :$

 

[Chaney579]

You notice when people are on about the the sniper and the assassin how the difference is always that PCI-E slot and almost never the fact that the assassin has 16 phase power instead of the 8 phase power the sniper has? Why is that, is 16 phase power just not important or just a gimmick or summet? I thought 16 phase power was like an overclocker's dream?

Well 16 phase power is never needed. Its only for the juice if you are like using dry ice or some extreme form of stress benchmarking. Its never ever used for practical home use. TTL got his 990x or whatever he used for the assassin build to a VERY high OC higher then he had gotten with the chip compared to other. (Of course he used a little pre built WC setup) And he only used one 8 PIN PSU connection and not both. Its just an 8 phasex2 you will only used 8 if you have only one 8 pin connected and again if you are liquid nitrogen cooling or something in an OC'ing contest or something thats where you would use it...

 

[Chaney579]

Yeah but you dont get any x1 slots for sounds cards on that 1 (the only 1 will get covered by ther GPU) and i cant say i like the 1 on the UD7 at the top. I am acctually considering going back to my original specs with the Rampage Black Edition with the i7-970. Ive done the math and the total price increase if you include a decent sound card and the RAM etc. for the UD7/ASUS max. is only about 100 pounds more. I can definitely live with that plus the fact that ill be able to use all 6 GB of my RAM + the BE board is 1 sexy beast with a good soundcard for headsets(which is all i use). Its not like ill notice a performance drop in my games with a 970 now is it ^^, its still 1 beastly CPU.

Besides who want to OC on the 1155, looks rather boring imho

You dont need a sound card. The board comes with it built in. And yes its not an onboard controlled by the CPU they actually fit the entire sound card Memory modules, compacitors etc etc on the board so the stress will not be on the cpu. But i would seriously think about going with the sniper... For that price you get very good ethernet card that does reduce ping quit a bit. And Creative labs sound card. (Which is one of the industry standards for gaming)

And taking the price drop into account and the fact that you wont need to buy a sound card you could take the money and put it in a better GPU or a better SLI config.. Or hell even pick up a 980x or a 990x since it would only be 250-350 dollars 'american' more.

But thats just my opinion you can choose your rig how you like i just have a soft spot for the G1 Line up they are very very very good looking and performing mobo

Jesse

 

[GuyIncognito]

It all looks like overkill. Have fun.

 

[djcwarren@hotmail.com]

You dont need a sound card. The board comes with it built in. And yes its not an onboard controlled by the CPU they actually fit the entire sound card Memory modules, compacitors etc etc on the board so the stress will not be on the cpu. But i would seriously think about going with the sniper... For that price you get very good ethernet card that does reduce ping quit a bit. And Creative labs sound card. (Which is one of the industry standards for gaming)

And taking the price drop into account and the fact that you wont need to buy a sound card you could take the money and put it in a better GPU or a better SLI config.. Or hell even pick up a 980x or a 990x since it would only be 250-350 dollars 'american' more.

But thats just my opinion you can choose your rig how you like i just have a soft spot for the G1 Line up they are very very very good looking and performing mobo

Jesse

Yeah i did look into the G1 series but im really going for a more red/black theme on this build and im deff going to get the AR3:BE if i do end up going 1366.

The only thing im not decided on yet is UD7/Asus Maximus 4 with 2600k and an addition 4 gb of RAM or the AR3:BE with the i7-970 (the 990 is doubble the price in norway so im deff. not going to get that). The price on the two isent that much of a difference tbh so i do think im doing to go with the 1366 solution which comes with good sound and i can use my 6gb or RAM.

Then when the LGA 2011 comes out 1 can just upgrade as im sure it will be some time before the high end baords hit the market.

 

[djcwarren@hotmail.com]

Allright, so after many sleepless nights and cancelled orders ^^ i placed a order after finally makeing up my bloody mind. Should arrive on Tuesday and i'm really excited to get this badboy setup

Final specs:

Case: Cooler Master HAF X

PSU: Corsair AX 1200w (To much for this build, but will be adding another GPU later and it can be used for future builds).

Motherboard: ASUS Maximus IV Extreme B3 (Chose this over the UD7 because of color and better PCI-e layout).

CPU: Intel i7-2600k

CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D14

RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Redline PC3-12800 2x2048MB 1600MHz CL6 6-8-6-24 (2 sticks out of my 3 stick set, should work just fine as the 2x2 and the 3x2 have identical stats).

GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 580 "Lightning"

Soundcard: ASUS Xonar D2X/XDT

Main drive: Western Digital VelociRaptor 600GB 3.5"

Storage Drives: 3 x Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB

DVD/Bluray: Lite-On DVD/Blu-Ray Reader, IHOS104

OS: Windows Ultimate 7 64-bit

Monitor: Samsung T240 24" 1920x1200

Headset: Sennheiser PC360

I will be adding an SSD a little later as i want to see what Crucial's C400 series has to offer before makeing up my final mind. I will also be getting 2x4GB Mushkin Ridgeback if i need more RAM and as soon as they are available in Norway, so far only the 3x4GB set is for sale but hopefully 4 GB is enough for a 4.6 ghz OC and maxed out games.

I would like to thank everyone who commented and helped me out with this build.

 

[rwiuviberwVFIUBER]

Just a quick note if it's not too late. If you were getting a sound card for gaming, I'd go with the Fatal1ty. As much as the other stuff isn't as amazing as it's put out to be, this thing is a little ripper.

Fatal1ty Sound Card

Much better positional audio then the ASUS, that's a lot coming from me as I get everything ASUS if I can

(Screen, GPU, MOBO, Optical)

 

[djcwarren@hotmail.com]

Sry dude just finished bulding the system today and the D2x is amazing compared to my old onboard, the Fata1ty might be better for gameing but i do listen to alot of music and watch alot of movies/series aswell so this is probably better overall plus ive heard really bad things about Creatives drivers.

Just a quick note if it's not too late. If you were getting a sound card for gaming, I'd go with the Fatal1ty. As much as the other stuff isn't as amazing as it's put out to be, this thing is a little ripper.

Fatal1ty Sound Card

Much better positional audio then the ASUS, that's a lot coming from me as I get everything ASUS if I can

(Screen, GPU, MOBO, Optical)