Need advice on new PC

[Precht]

Hey OC3D

I'm going to buy a new computer in about a month or two. I'm not sure what to get - i have an idea though, but not sure i get the performance i pay for, therefore i would like some advice on what i should get.

Here's the build as it is by now:

Antec 1200

Asus Crosshair Formula IV

Phenom II X6 1090T

G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz Ripjaw Series (7-8-7-24) - Not sure whether to go for 4 or 8 gigs?

Corsiar H50

Samsung F3 1TB

HD 5870 - Not sure what brand i'm getting. Mb XFX or Sapphire

Corsair TX850

Are this a good setup for the price? Should i stick with this, or should or buy a Phenom II X4 or mb a i5 750? I hope you have some good advice for me.

 

[Ghosthud1]

everything there sounds perfectly sound!

the only thing that gripes me is the antec 1200, never liked antec "flagship" cases.

maybe have a look at these

LianLi PC-P50B

HAF 932

Coolermaster Storm Sniper Black Ultra

 

[Precht]

everything there sounds perfectly sound!

the only thing that gripes me is the antec 1200, never liked antec "flagship" cases.

maybe have a look at these

LianLi PC-P50B

HAF 932

Coolermaster Storm Sniper Black Ultra

What's wrong with the antec "flagship"?

Btw, the PC is gonna be used for gaming (atleast most of the time)

 

[I Hunta x]

there pretty ugly tbh, the cases posted above are alot nicer imo (and probably most people will agree) and all cost around the same/less mabey

 

[Precht]

there pretty ugly tbh, the cases posted above are alot nicer imo (and probably most people will agree) and all cost around the same/less mabey

It's hard to argue with looks. But how does they perform cooling-wise compared to other cases? Is it a good case for airflow?

 

[Ghosthud1]

all the cases i have posted have either much higher quality build for less money

or much better airflow for less money.

antec are good on the low end of things, but when they try to play ball with the big daddys of the chassis business, there cases just look dated and cheap.

 

[Precht]

all the cases i have posted have either much higher quality build for less money

or much better airflow for less money.

antec are good on the low end of things, but when they try to play ball with the big daddys of the chassis business, there cases just look dated and cheap.

I've actually thought about getting the HAF 932 due to a lower price and it will fit to the black/red color scheme of the mobo. Do you have some comparisons with the temperature with the cases?

 

[AMDFTW]

that build is nice,scrap the antec1200 as mentiond,get a asus or MSI 5870,and i would go for 4gb of Ram 8 will be wasted and might hinder ur OC if all 4 slots are used,maybe a rethink on the CPU cooler.

i would suggest ither a titan fenrir or prolemtech maghalms revb push/pull for both

 

[Precht]

that build is nice,scrap the antec1200 as mentiond,get a asus or MSI 5870,and i would go for 4gb of Ram 8 will be wasted and might hinder ur OC if all 4 slots are used,maybe a rethink on the CPU cooler.

i would suggest ither a titan fenrir or prolemtech maghalms revb push/pull for both

Why should i scrap the 1200 and why choose asus/msi insted of others? I've also thought about getting 4 gigs atm, and then upgrading to 8 if i feel the need for it (which i prolly wont )

What's wrong with the cpu cooler?

 

[I Hunta x]

the h50 is not great temps for the price in all honestly, and as stated before the 1200 isnt amazing for the cost

 

[Diablo]

The antec isn't as nice as the other cases, but TBH cases are all a matter of taste so I might think one is great but you might hate it.

Get an asus or MSI 5870 as they have specialist tools for OCing them (MSI afterburner is what I use), with overvoltage tools, to get the best out of the cards.

The CPU will overclock better with only one set of channels occupied i.e. 4GB not 8GB. The CPU cooler you suggest H50 is quite a nice unit, but doesn't provide cooling like a real watercooling set up will. The Titan Fenrir is pretty cheap (£30) and cools extremely well. Because the Megahalems is £50 and doesn't come with a fan, the Corsair would be a pretty fair match price wise. The difference in temps will be slight, but I'd favour the Fenrir.

The case airflow is pretty much of a muchness, there isn't a lot of difference. The problem with the H50 is that it wants and intake fan over it, sucking air in. This is a problem as it may disrupt the air flow in the case.

 

[Precht]

the h50 is not great temps for the price in all honestly, and as stated before the 1200 isnt amazing for the cost

I don't think i can purchase the Titan Fenrir here in Denmark :S

Get an asus or MSI 5870 as they have specialist tools for OCing them (MSI afterburner is what I use), with overvoltage tools, to get the best out of the cards.

I thought you could use MSI afterburner on all cards, and adjust the voltage on any card with ati cooler on?

The CPU will overclock better with only one set of channels occupied i.e. 4GB not 8GB.

That's also what i've heard, so i think i'll stick to 4GB.

The CPU cooler you suggest H50 is quite a nice unit, but doesn't provide cooling like a real watercooling set up will. The Titan Fenrir is pretty cheap (£30) and cools extremely well. Because the Megahalems is £50 and doesn't come with a fan, the Corsair would be a pretty fair match price wise. The difference in temps will be slight, but I'd favour the Fenrir.

Again, I don't think i can purchase it here in Denmark.

The case airflow is pretty much of a muchness, there isn't a lot of difference. The problem with the H50 is that it wants and intake fan over it, sucking air in. This is a problem as it may disrupt the air flow in the case.

That's true. Just saw a review of H50 and the difference between intake and exhaust was like 5 degrees celcius.

Don't know about the cpu-cooler yet. Hmm (thinking)...

 

[4g64fiero]

Unless you get a SSD then that sata3 setup is wasted.

EVen if you buy a sata 3 platter drive its not going to transfer fast enough to take advantage of that standard.

Therefore, just as a word of caution, it would be wiser to buy the cheaper sata2 data drive, and then a SSD.

The standard hard drives are still playing catch up to this sata3 standard.

 

[Precht]

Unless you get a SSD then that sata3 setup is wasted.

EVen if you buy a sata 3 platter drive its not going to transfer fast enough to take advantage of that standard.

Therefore, just as a word of caution, it would be wiser to buy the cheaper sata2 data drive, and then a SSD.

The standard hard drives are still playing catch up to this sata3 standard.

I'm not quite sure if I understand you right. Is the HDD a wrong one or is it the mobo with sata3 that serves no use - or how shall i understand it?

 

[AMDFTW]

Diablo pritty much put it in a nutshell for you fella,buying ither ASUS or MSI means u could get a cheaper one then OC it thus saving you money,you should be able to find all the parts you need/mentiond as they are all well known products

 

[Precht]

Diablo pritty much put it in a nutshell for you fella,buying ither ASUS or MSI means u could get a cheaper one then OC it thus saving you money,you should be able to find all the parts you need/mentiond as they are all well known products

But i just thought you could use voltage tweak on any reference card?

I'm able to find all parts except the Titan Fenrir

 

[4g64fiero]

Precht, sorry to confuse you.

You want the sata3 ( 6gb/s) mother board as that is the new standard.

I am just saying, the standard sata3 hard drives still cant transfer data as fast as the sata3 standard with the exception for SSD.

To sum things up, dont bother buying a sata3 hard drive that isnt solid state for now, understand? Save the money and buy a sata2, it will be just as quick.

PS I love my MSI 890fx board.

 

[Precht]

Precht, sorry to confuse you.

You want the sata3 ( 6gb/s) mother board as that is the new standard.

I am just saying, the standard sata3 hard drives still cant transfer data as fast as the sata3 standard with the exception for SSD.

To sum things up, dont bother buying a sata3 hard drive that isnt solid state for now, understand? Save the money and buy a sata2, it will be just as quick.

PS I love my MSI 890fx board.

It's okay

I also thought it is wise to get the new standard, just to be sure.

The HDD i'm buying is also a sata-300 disk, so that is fine But thanks for explaining it to me once more

 

[AMDFTW]

then,ither go for the prolemtech meghalms push/pull,it may work out the same price as the corsair h50,but you might get better temps and also you keep your rear fan as exoust

 

[Diablo]

The afterburner tool works on all 5970s but not all 5870s, with an MSI or Asus 5870 you know it will work. The Sapphire Red line tool doesn't work (sigh).

The H50 is a pretty good solution if you can't get the titan or megahalems, my Dad runs one on a QX9770 (not OCed, double sigh) and that peaks at about 35C, so its got pretty good cooling.

I have no idea what 4g64fiero is going on about. The F3 is a good SATA II HD, so that will be fine. Its definitely the best performance for the price.