Maximus V vs Maximus VI

[sushisky]

So I was planning to do a build with the Maximus V Formula and the i7-3770k, when I realized that the Maximus VI Formula was already at Computex.

I googled around and found that the maximus v formula was announced at computex 2012 and released in october. That leaves a 3 month gap.

Since I really like the new board, and like the new features, I'm a little unsure as to whether or not I should wait for the new board. Since getting the maximus vi would force me to get a Haswell (likely i7-4770k), I'm having doubts. (Supposedly haswell is worse at overclocking and has higher temps, according to some sites)

really confused, would really love some honest opinion

 

[AverageNinja]

I'd say get Haswell, but that's just me.
If you really can't wait, get the 3770k, but Haswell is still a (slight) improvement over ivy
Cheers!

 

[airdeano]

2nded
cant wait, ivey is fine, even sandy is a player, but the money value isn't going to
be there IMO. ivey parts are coming down in price point and deals could be had.

same with the GPU-of-the-month club. something always going to be better than
todays tech. but how much are you really getting and how much is the cost to get it?

mannies have to be repaid for all that research and development at thousands of
6-figure lab coat guys for 10-15% gain over last platform release. who pays for
all of that? the end-user pretty much.

 

[WillSK]

Get the newer tech if you can. Always better to be at the fore front of tech if the price premium isn't too huge which it isn't really.

 

[MeanBruce]

Considering only the motherboards, the Maximus VI Formula is just brilliant by design, quite a few improvements over the MVF. Love the 6SATA 3 ports could do an awesome RAID0, RAID10 All-Intel port array. Fast and secure. The thermal armor can certainly be debated, but aesthetically I think it’s just beautiful.

Considering the 4770K? I’ve got some screenshots of some very good overclocking chips, 4.5, 4.6, with low volts 1.18, 1.20, yet the number of enthusiasts unable to reach decent 24/7 everyday overclocks far outweigh these few lucky lottery winners. Never before have I seen such disparity among flagship CPUs.

Many are purchasing into Haswell simply because the motherboards are so gorgeous this time around.

The Maximus V Formula was first available in the US on July 6th from Newegg and the Maximus V Extreme on July 11th 2012, I was following the release and ordered my M5E during that time.

So only one month after Computex 2012.

 

[antihero]

^If Haswell really overclocks that badly, I'd avoid getting one unless you got outstanding water cooling. Even Sandy Bridge seems like a valid option. You could get the Maximus IV Extreme and the 2500k for a steal and overclock it to 5GHz fairly easily with something along the lines of an H100i.

To be honest I don't think Haswell is that much of an improvement over Ivy Bridge / Sandy Bridge. At least not as much as some people like to believe. Haswell might be faster, but your cooling is suddenly cr@p because of the immense heat they produce.

 

[MeanBruce]

If I was decided on Haswell and the Maximus VI Formula, I would spend this time now locating one of the premium overclocking chips, they are out there, while awaiting the M6F release.

If you do not plan to overclock, then you have nothing to fear.

At stock speed 3.5Ghz, Haswell is an improvement. At nice speeds like 4.2 to 4.7 everyday overclocks with nice low temps, your results are lottery dependent. I heard some retailers are pre-binning 4770Ks and selling the premium chips at a premium price. Best to wait a few weeks as more information rolls in.

Also, we only have user data for about 5days so far considering shipping times, could be the 4770K overclocking performance improves as more enthusiasts get their hands on a larger sampling or with updated bios, we gotta keep the faith.

Some nice 4770K results, sweeeet.

 

[antihero]

I very much doubt any legitimate reseller is going to sell cherry-picked CPUs to the general population. Even if they do, that's called cheating.

 

[MeanBruce]

I guess the retailers don't consider it cheating, they are putting the time in to test the CPUs and then charging much more than the standard "off the shelf" price for them according to overclockablility.

Maybe they feel they are doing enthusiasts that want a guaranteed clock speed a favor.

ASUS has tested a couple hundred Haswell processors at this time and this is ASUS's specific feedback from that overclock testing.

70% of CPUs can clock to 4.5GHz

30% of CPUs can clock to 4.6GHz

20% of CPUs can clock to 4.7GHz

10% of CPUs can clock to 4.8GHz

Overall you will find most CPUs capable of reaching 44x to 45x with varying levels of voltage.

To some enthusiasts getting a top clocking chip is worth the added expense.

 

[theDTP]

I guess the retailers don't consider it cheating, they are putting the time in to test the CPUs and then charging much more than the standard "off the shelf" price for them according to overclockablility.

Maybe they feel they are doing enthusiasts that want a guaranteed clock speed a favor.

ASUS has tested a couple hundred Haswell processors at this time and this is ASUS's specific feedback from that overclock testing.

70% of CPUs can clock to 4.5GHz

30% of CPUs can clock to 4.6GHz

20% of CPUs can clock to 4.7GHz

10% of CPUs can clock to 4.8GHz

Overall you will find most CPUs capable of reaching 44x to 45x with varying levels of voltage.

To some enthusiasts getting a top clocking chip is worth the added expense.

Woo yeah, I'm there... :mellow: top 70% :mellow:

Also, we have all gathered Haswell doesn't clock well but to be honest it will get harder with every generation if they want to keep prices around the same as previous generation but on another note, we will be getting more performance from smaller overclocks with every generation. For example, my 4670K at 4.2GHz gets a better score in CINEBENCH than my 2500k at 4.8GHz ^_^

 

[sushisky]

I'm not really obsessed with overclocking all the way, but I guess I don't want inability to overclock either. Is it really that bad? (the overclocking with haswell)

 

[sushisky]

also, just a side question. If I had bad luck and got a chip that overclocks to 4.5GHz, and I tried 5.0 GHz, what would happen to the chip? Would it die on me or would the system just not boot? (Kinda worried about increasing the multiplier too much at one go)

 

[theDTP]

1. Don't multi post.
2. If you are stable at 4.5GHz with x.xx voltage then increasing the multiplier will not kill the cpu, it will either boot or not, if it boots with the voltage you was using at 4.5GHz you need to know two things, one being that even though the voltage is still the same the temperature will increase with more CPU power and the other being that if you do manage to boot at 5GHz with the voltage from 4.5GHz then your voltage was already too high.
3. If you are kinda worries about increasing the multiplier too much in one go, this is because you shouldn't overclock this way.

Please read some guides and maybe watch some videos

 

[sushisky]

i did read some guides on overclocking, and watched linus' vid on overclocking haswell chips. but no one really showed what happened if you set the multiplier crazy high though .-.

 

[theDTP]

Same as every chip, won't boot unless you feed it what it needs which happens to be more voltage.