Let's talk faster then HDDs And SSDs

Ghaz

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Okay so recently I've been looking around for something fast. Firstly, I came across using RAM as storage. The best I could find that was not horribly expensive was Gigabyte's I-ram. The first edition uses a pci slot, and supports 4x1GB of DDR 400 RAM. I will link some benchmarks, and this is obviously going to be very fast. I've seen videos of it going from windows starting to boot to desktop in 4 seconds. However, it is bottlenecked by the use of 150mbs sata, although it has access speeds of microseconds. There were plans for a second one, supporting better (perhaps more) RAM, and 300mbs sata... However, I don't think this will ever be released. Still, it sounds excellent for a game/windows. (A couple of notes though, obv. ram is volatile, and as soon as the given battery runs out, your data is lost. It is charged by your system, however. Also, I have heard of a bay mounted one as opposed to a pci version).

Through browsing of expensive stuff (I heard of rumours of some storage medium costing £7000 to £25000, although I didn't see much, and I may be lying ;p). I then came across something called the iodrive. This is the dream storage medium.

To put shortly:

800mbs Bandwidth

Access speed of microseconds

Solid State

Available from 80GB to 640GB, 1TB planned.

I don't think this has been released yet. The major downside is that it is predicted to cost £15 a gigabyte, and as the smallest one will be 80GB, this sure is not going to be cheap.

I'm seriously thinking of getting some I-ram though; costing about £65 plus 4x1GB sticks, its not horribly expensive. Some people will be put off by the small space, but put a game or your OS on it, your going to be having fun.
 
I remember the iodrive, I did a news article back in 2007 here

There are some nice pictures and a video. I'd love one...

Edit: I-ram is sucky; 4gb isn't enough for vista or windows 7, needs a seperate power supply or all the data goes, it's only 4gb...
 
name='Mr. Smith' said:
I remember the iodrive, I did a news article back in 2007 here

There are some nice pictures and a video. I'd love one...

Edit: I-ram is sucky; 4gb isn't enough for vista or windows 7, needs a seperate power supply or all the data goes, it's only 4gb...

I'm sure you could strip xp down a bit using nlite and get it on there. I saw someone boot xp in 4 seonds, but I read a review, saying:

"Second, we encountered numerous minor errors and Registry corruptions, which wasn't particularly reassuring.

The final problems are the most damning, though. We didn't experience much evidence of the super-fast transfer speeds. Windows loaded three seconds quicker from the i-RAM than from the Raptor. Reformatting the i-RAM and installing Far Cry on it saw level load times of 39.1 seconds instead of 40.4 on the Raptor. We didn't feel as though Windows was working much faster, if at all."

-PC Pro

I really want an iodrive, but there is now way I could afford £1200 ><

How much performance boost does Raid 0 give? Before I came across this stuff, I was tempted by raid. Not as expensive either :)
 
Though I know you want to go faster than SDDs, but you should take a look at the OCZ OCZSSD2-1C32G and 64G ssd's. They are incredibly cheap compared to other solid state disks and I have heard rumours (not confirmed!) about speeds of 120/150 and 0.35 seconds seek. For a retail price of €150 for the 32GB version, RAID 0 may be interesting to reach 200/250 to 240/300 speeds.
 
The OCZ's SSD are amazing. 2 or more you need a PCI-E raid card.

The I-ram now comes in a drive bay flavour but it still the same as it was sadly. However no one else tried it and have missed out what could be amazing.

The Fuzion IO is amazin but £20K for smallest size, jog on

However in an Intel lab in the UK there SSD, fastest thing ever made and out todate and out soon
 
this may sound noobish but can you tell that your pc has sped up or slowed down with a faster or slower HDD?

lets say we have 2 identical systems only difference is that one has a 7200 rpm and the other is 10k Rpm will you notice a greater performance to justify that extra money you spent :S?
 
name='Pjalchemist' said:
The Fuzion IO is amazin but £20K for smallest size, jog on

However in an Intel lab in the UK there SSD, fastest thing ever made and out todate and out soon

£1200 for the smallest one : )

And do we have a name or a link?
 
£1200... I thought about it but for that I'd rather raid some ssd's...

I set 2 of my hdds in raid0 and noticed no difference at all... I think you might feel the difference moving from hdd to ssd but 7.2k to 10k I doubt it...
 
I have my CF cards and SATA adaptor ready for the RAID0 testing i said about I just haven't built the PC up yet.

Should either be really good or smoke in incredible fashion
 
name='Mr. Smith' said:
£1200... I thought about it but for that I'd rather raid some ssd's...

I set 2 of my hdds in raid0 and noticed no difference at all... I think you might feel the difference moving from hdd to ssd but 7.2k to 10k I doubt it...

For that price, I can understand. But to be honest, these will be insane. I think at the moment they are more designed for large companies. Hmm, I was reading that ssd's weren't al lthat great. Especially the write speeds...
 
SSD's are better for small packets. Regular harddrives have to search about 8 ms before finding certain data or a place to write data. SSD's can do that in 0.1 - 0.35 ms. And with small packets the write speed matters less than the search time.

Edit: and those read/write speeds are also why I suggested setting two OCZ's in raid :P

Core series SSD drives are available in capacities of 32GB, 64GB, and 128GB and deliver incredible 120-143 MB/s 80-93 MB/s read/write speeds and seek times of less than 0.35ms, making the Core series up to 10x as fast on a seek-time basis and up to 40% faster on a R/W basis that the best performing 2.5” HDDs on the market, all while consuming 50% less power.

Specifications

# Part Number: OCZSSD2-1C32G

# Available in 32GB, 64GB, 128GB capacities

# Read 120-143 MB/sec

# Write 80-93 MB/sec

Looks quite fair to me :) Will probably come close to 3.5" disks.

Source: http://www.case-mod.com/ocz-oczssd21c32g-core-series-sata-ii-25-32gb-solid-state-drive-p-3951.html
 
name='PP Mguire' said:
You should try out a Matrix Slice mate.
Googled it, and hell I'm interested :|

"Currently this feature only available for Intel ICHxR Intel South Bridge chip and Areca Raid controller." Anything known about which motherboards have these southbridge chips? :o

I really started thinking about buying two 500 gb 7200.11's and slicing them up to 100GB programs/OS in raid0 and 400GB raid1 data now :o
 
Heres an outcome of 6 250gig Seagate 7200.11s

hd2jx7.jpg


Aditional information can be found here.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=467848

And here

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=565177

The guy who did that i believe was using an Asus Maximus Extreme. (the pic)
 
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imsm/sb/CS-022304.htm

The ICH9R/DO is used in the Asus P5E series, at which I was looking for my future rig. That's some good news :D

I could pick up four 7200.10 250GBs for €160 or two 7200.11 500GBs for €120 here. And I bet eBay can get me some too. Only problem with eBay is that it's best to have identical drives, and that makes it a bit harder.

Edit: Oh, four times Samsung spinpoint T166 320GB's for €170 :)
 
*thread hijack*

Anyone know a cost effective way of using 10x30+g Ultra320 drives for home use ?

Cards seem so expensive, and mostly pcix, and I`m of the opinion using some kind of 160->320 would lose the effectiveness of 320 speed.

*appologize*
 
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