Just saw this video :O

Indeed :D
Do you think a 4+2 phase design is enough to hit 4.4~4.5GHz?
If not, I'll have to either get the butt ugly GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 or up the budget even more and get a 990FX board :/
The store where I'm buying doesn't have the M5A97 Pro/EVO R2.0 :(
 
Do you have a full list of the AM3+ boards that they have that you could afford? Maybe ask the shop to see if they'd order a M5A97 board in? A long shot I know, but no harm in asking i guess :D
 
They have:
GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3
Asrock 970 Extreme 4
ASUS M5A97 R2.0 and some lower end boards
I might indeed ask for the M5A97 Pro or the EVO, and if they could add that to their catalog.
I'm sending them an e-mail right away me thinks.
 
I totally disliked the fact that he was just sitting there and throwing out numbers.. Y U NO make a graph ?

But that is what i expected: If you start getting in to applications that benefit from more cores/threads the 8350 will show his strength. Xsplit for example.

To give some reverence.
This is what Linus came up with when he did his 8350 vs 3570k testing:

Test

Its a small power point file with loads of graphs and stuff
 
I'd get the Asrock or the 5A97. The main issue with the asrock as I mentioned earlier is that the bios might not be up to date for FX processors. i've used two 970 extreme 3s in the past and their wasn't any bios issues but I've heard it can happen. The Asus board is newer and from research it does do quite well with overclocking.
I see what you mean about the gigabyte being ugly :L.
 
When I had a z68 ASRock board that didn't boot cause I used it with an Ivy Bridge CPU I mailed their support, they asked for my adress and the next day I had a brand new bios chip in the mail :)
 
I'd get the Asrock or the 5A97. The main issue with the asrock as I mentioned earlier is that the bios might not be up to date for FX processors. i've used two 970 extreme 3s in the past and their wasn't any bios issues but I've heard it can happen. The Asus board is newer and from research it does do quite well with overclocking.
I see what you mean about the gigabyte being ugly :L.
That gigabyte one has a blue pcb, and I hate that :p
 
When I had a z68 ASRock board that didn't boot cause I used it with an Ivy Bridge CPU I mailed their support, they asked for my adress and the next day I had a brand new bios chip in the mail :)

Yeah that's what Asrock just said to me bro. Unpack it, let her know the chip bios number and if it's not going to work let her know.
 
It isn't just that, either. Nvidia have sat back on their arses lately and not gone out to look to get support from game companies. AMD has been really pushing their PR and getting onboard with companies like Square Enix, Codemasters and so on. They're literally sniping Intel and cutting their throats.

All the time Nvidia let this happen (and it's a bit late now TBH) AMD are going to end up with games that run better on their technology. Not only that, but they are also going to be able to bundle those games with their GPUs and so on to make them more attractive.

And don't forget to mention that next gen consoles are all running AMD hardware. Nvidia will have a tough time trying to get devs to help make their hardware better optimized for because many multi-plat games will be Amd optimized. Because this will happen market share will shift and then Amd profits go up while Nvidia goes down.

As for Intel though they will start losing in the gaming section(probably) because AMD would have better optimized CPUs. But still dominate in a lot of other areas.
 
And don't forget to mention that next gen consoles are all running AMD hardware. Nvidia will have a tough time trying to get devs to help make their hardware better optimized for because many multi-plat games will be Amd optimized. Because this will happen market share will shift and then Amd profits go up while Nvidia goes down.

As for Intel though they will start losing in the gaming section(probably) because AMD would have better optimized CPUs. But still dominate in a lot of other areas.

Well this is just it. If the 8350 can turn the tables on a 3570k *now* then imagine what will happen when games always use all 8 cores :o

From where I stand, to me personally (this is just an opinion) AMD's breakthrough CPU is not the 8350 it's the 8320.

Simply because Intel offer no cheaper K solution than the 3570k and the 8320 can do everything its big brother can do.

Sure the 8350 comes faster out of the box but the success always comes from lower in the ranks from the little CPU that could.

Mind you let's face it, the 8350 doesn't exactly cost a million dollars does it?
 
Well this is just it. If the 8350 can turn the tables on a 3570k *now* then imagine what will happen when games always use all 8 cores :o

From where I stand, to me personally (this is just an opinion) AMD's breakthrough CPU is not the 8350 it's the 8320.

Simply because Intel offer no cheaper K solution than the 3570k and the 8320 can do everything its big brother can do.

Sure the 8350 comes faster out of the box but the success always comes from lower in the ranks from the little CPU that could.

Mind you let's face it, the 8350 doesn't exactly cost a million dollars does it?


around £30 more, using aria for pricing.
 
8320 £120.98 delivered (Amazon)
8350 £145.99 plus shipping (Aria).

Sure, £25 isn't a ton of money but when you're literally buying 300mhz that will make no difference... You can get a half decent cooler for that now.
 
Well this is just it. If the 8350 can turn the tables on a 3570k *now* then imagine what will happen when games always use all 8 cores :o

From where I stand, to me personally (this is just an opinion) AMD's breakthrough CPU is not the 8350 it's the 8320.

Simply because Intel offer no cheaper K solution than the 3570k and the 8320 can do everything its big brother can do.

Sure the 8350 comes faster out of the box but the success always comes from lower in the ranks from the little CPU that could.

Mind you let's face it, the 8350 doesn't exactly cost a million dollars does it?


Game Engines are going to needed to be enhanced for better multi-thread/core optimization since most are only meant for single/dual threads with about 3 cores being used. So don't get too excited right off the bat.

Edit: The above is not facts but what i can gather from google searches..
 
Game Engines are going to needed to be enhanced for better multi-thread/core optimization since most are only meant for single/dual threads with about 3 cores being used. So don't get too excited right off the bat.
I believe that they'll be optimising them more as newer games come out. Some engines off the bat (frostbite and cryengine for example) work really well with 8 series cpus.

I know they're making a new frostbite for Battlefield 4 which I suspect will be released for the upcoming consoles. I think that this will be the first engine with true optimisation for higher number of cores. I simply think that developers will be using heavily modified engines for the next generation of systems as well and right now they're keeping it quiet (for the most) due to NDAs and the such.
 
Game Engines are going to needed to be enhanced for better multi-thread/core optimization since most are only meant for single/dual threads with about 3 cores being used. So don't get too excited right off the bat.

Edit: The above is not facts but what i can gather from google searches..

I'm not that excited just yet. If the recent string of games are anything to go by though it won't be long now.

Implementing multiple core support really isn't that hard . It was just gaming devs saying "Well, consoles don't support it so why spend more than ten seconds on something that won't have any financial benefit to us at all?"

That's set to change now though.
 
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