Is there another way to cool water?

kerochi

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Instead of using fans, I was wondering if there could be an alternative?

Is the only next step up from watercooling phase changing then?
 
Or TEC/peltier...

Jim had a chiller and I don't think it did it for him, we both tried TECs and got OK results... Better to invest in phase if you want more extreme cooling
 
name='Mr. Smith' said:
Or TEC/peltier...

Jim had a chiller and I don't think it did it for him, we both tried TECs and got OK results... Better to invest in phase if you want more extreme cooling

Yeah the chiller was too much of a pain in the a$$ tbh. The chiller itself weighed more than my PC, and having it hooked up externally made it hell to move the PC around:

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That bong works the same way as portable air conditioner units u can get for offices/house. Infact I have one at home with a broken belt. The large fan inside it runs behind the `waterfall`. Makes the room pretty humid. Difference I can see is instead of filling the res with water all the time, u just put ur tubing in. Lose a fair bit of water to the room tho.

How about watercooling the rad ?
 
name='Jim' said:
Yeah the chiller was too much of a pain in the a$$ tbh. The chiller itself weighed more than my PC, and having it hooked up externally made it hell to move the PC around:

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ahh ive been looking for some input on a cooler like this sort.

can you please tell me what temps your water was cooled to ( below room ambiant )and did you have any problems with condensation ?.

i kinda kicking a tec chiller around in my head for the last few months.

thanks .
 
name='joner' said:
ahh ive been looking for some input on a cooler like this sort.

can you please tell me what temps your water was cooled to ( below room ambiant )and did you have any problems with condensation ?.

i kinda kicking a tec chiller around in my head for the last few months.

thanks .

Its been a while since I had the chiller, but if I remember correctly I was getting 10c Idle temps and 19c load temps. At those temperatures condensation was forming on the pipes, but luckily I never had any drip off.

The Titan chiller that I used had an adjustable temperature display, so you could set it just above dew point to avoid condensation.
 
name='Jim' said:
Its been a while since I had the chiller, but if I remember correctly I was getting 10c Idle temps and 19c load temps. At those temperatures condensation was forming on the pipes, but luckily I never had any drip off.

The Titan chiller that I used had an adjustable temperature display, so you could set it just above dew point to avoid condensation.

thanks for the reply jim.

was that the water temps or cpu temps you quoted above ?.

im thinking of putting a hs onto a tec cold side and basically using it as an ice cube in a rez that holds about 700cc of water. the tec will then be cooled by a larger adequate aircooled hs.

im trying to figure out what size tec i will need and a few finer points. i dont want to make it so cold that i start getting condensation around the blocks etc.
 
Tbh if you don't want condensation, just get the biggest, fattest radiator you can find for your watercooling.

As soon as you hit sub-ambient you have the danger of condensation forming.
 
name='Ham' said:
Tbh if you don't want condensation, just get the biggest, fattest radiator you can find for your watercooling.

As soon as you hit sub-ambient you have the danger of condensation forming.

yes ,that is the problem ime trying to get around in my head.

i know that with a certain amount of airflow around criticall areas that drops will not form providing that the water temps are not too extreme.

im kinda leaning towards a sub 200-150w tec.

the cool it tec cooler is the principle im working on , although i had the idea floating long before i ever seen one.

if i can cool my cpu by another 5-10c then i will be happy.

i am currently using a pa120x3 and am enjoying temps below 50c on my Q66 at 3.6 primed for 8hrs but i will always strive to make things cooler . the design i have in mind is not expensive ,mabe €30-40 , the price of a block ?.

thanks for the input guys.
 
TBH with what you're talking about it's a little bit of a waste of time. You won't get very good results unless you either make your own chiller or get someone to make one for you.

Hell, try it and see but I'm not very convinced it would work
 
I was thinking of doing this too, awhile back i slapped a tec on my rad, which helped temps like 1 - 2c, but did not improve performance. And then the tec chipped and became useless. Theres a couple ways i would think to do this, make a metal res attach two 200w or higher tecs with epoxy than then on the other side attach massive heatsinks, that would be protruding out of the case with some fans(if not it would either break the tec or just not be that much benificary in temps). or use a water setup to cool it.

But my view is just use a tec block which i think would be more effective. instead of go through all of this.
 
Yep in recap;

TEC Block and bigger rad,

Proper built peltier chiller, often called a solid state chiller, or a TLC (thermoelectric liquid chiller);

Water chiller (and do the insulation or get a pansy one that won't help you that much)

Or direct die phase (least insulation, best efficiency).
 
name='NoL' said:
Yep in recap;

TEC Block and bigger rad,

Proper built peltier chiller, often called a solid state chiller, or a TLC (thermoelectric liquid chiller);

Water chiller (and do the insulation or get a pansy one that won't help you that much)

Or direct die phase (least insulation, best efficiency).

lol , im trying to make a pansy no risk chiller.

thanks for the reply NoL .

im gonna do some experiments at room temps with a glass of water and some ice . ile try and measure at what temp differance to ambiant water starts forming condensation on the outside of the glass.

ahhww heck ,its a simple idea that probably wont work but it wont break the bank if it does not work ,and im hoping it wont break my pc either :-).
 
name='joner' said:
im gonna do some experiments at room temps with a glass of water and some ice . ile try and measure at what temp differance to ambiant water starts forming condensation on the outside of the glass.

You don't need any experiments.

Condensation occurs at sub-ambient temps. Ambient temp = ~room temp. That is basic but reasonably accurate.

More here:

Condensation

Dew point

P.S Good luck, be interested to see if what you build works.
 
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