Is a single 240 rad enough???
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You can try EK's loop configuration app. I threw in some of your bits and it came to circa 275W, I'll presume you'll want to clock the cpu a bit since you've delidded it so I used the 8086 as a base.
I've always worked to a rule of thumb that for every 120mm of Rad you'll cool 100Ws or so. Dont forget to put in a bit of wattage / heat for your chosen pump(s).
I've always worked to a rule of thumb that for every 120mm of Rad you'll cool 100Ws or so. Dont forget to put in a bit of wattage / heat for your chosen pump(s).
Evolv X would do it.
240 is DEFINITELY too little, calculators be damned. A hot GPU and a hot 6-core? Forget that silliness. As for cases, the only ITX case I've ever stuffed a pair of 240 rads into was the Corsair Carbide Air 240, but they were *very* thin rads, and I *still* lost a LOT of skin off my knuckles due to the tight fit! Would not recommend that one.
Avet
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Surface area is way more important than ticknes. Two 240mmx30mm rads will outperform single 240mmx80mm rad by quite a margin. You have two very hot components. Don't get me wrong, it will manage to cool them, but fans will need to be ramped up, and temps won't be open loop worthy. Those two are the reason you water cool in the first place. Quiet system, and low temps.
Korreborg
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It depends on your view on noise.
Will i do the job = Yes
Will it be noisy = Yes
It's really quite simple. You generate X amount of heat. That heat needs to be dissipated.
A rads ability to dissipate heat is the down to size, fan speed and dT(delta temp).
https://www.ekwb.com/blog/radiators-part-2-performance/
Keep the dissipated wattage above the generated, and you are home safe.
But the 1080ti is 250w TDP and the 8700k is 95w with an OC that's 400w or more.
That 2200rpm or so according to the EK link, if you can keep the deltaT at 10c.
2200rpm is too much for my likings, but it's up to yourself. If you go for it, get a way to monitor your water temp. You need to keep it below 50c to not kill the pump over time. Personally i would keep it below 40. And the lower the better.
Will i do the job = Yes
Will it be noisy = Yes
It's really quite simple. You generate X amount of heat. That heat needs to be dissipated.
A rads ability to dissipate heat is the down to size, fan speed and dT(delta temp).
https://www.ekwb.com/blog/radiators-part-2-performance/
Keep the dissipated wattage above the generated, and you are home safe.
But the 1080ti is 250w TDP and the 8700k is 95w with an OC that's 400w or more.
That 2200rpm or so according to the EK link, if you can keep the deltaT at 10c.
2200rpm is too much for my likings, but it's up to yourself. If you go for it, get a way to monitor your water temp. You need to keep it below 50c to not kill the pump over time. Personally i would keep it below 40. And the lower the better.
steverebo
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Yeah I'm gonna go for a phanteks evolv matx case and put my itx board in it hopefully it won't look too out of place I recon I can get away with the psu although it is very small and i can stick a pair of 240 rads in it which should cool it much more efficiently.
Now I need to try and sell my evolv shift x and radiators as my current 240 rad is far too thick for the evolv matx front or top.
I guess this is a lesson learned. Next time I will do my research properly
Now I need to try and sell my evolv shift x and radiators as my current 240 rad is far too thick for the evolv matx front or top.
I guess this is a lesson learned. Next time I will do my research properly
Ady6UK
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The
PC-Q37 by Lian Li will take your single thick rad in the top. I've also seen some creative rad mounting in the bottom of that case too. Just a thought.
Edit: these score well so maybe one of these in the bottom? https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/XSPC/TX360/
Of course the 240mm version for you.
Edit: these score well so maybe one of these in the bottom? https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/XSPC/TX360/
Of course the 240mm version for you.
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you want 120mm rad for every component in your loop.
a 240 will work, but you will be pushing it. And your temps will be on the higher side since there isnt enough watt dissipation. Your fans would need to work hard.
i'd say a 360 minimum simply to deal with the overclocks.
2x 240 rads.. easily manageable.
a 240 will work, but you will be pushing it. And your temps will be on the higher side since there isnt enough watt dissipation. Your fans would need to work hard.
i'd say a 360 minimum simply to deal with the overclocks.
2x 240 rads.. easily manageable.
steverebo
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Yeah I put it all together yesterday just to see and you guys are right it's doable but the temps are not what I want and my fans are working overtime. Shame because it looks stunning.
I've put some of my bits up for sale in the marketplace I'm going to go back to full size atx and an evolve atx case with a pair of 360 rads that should sort it.
I've put some of my bits up for sale in the marketplace I'm going to go back to full size atx and an evolve atx case with a pair of 360 rads that should sort it.
Davva2004
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Do you have the option of running the GPU on air if you turn it around so that the fan faces inwards, and liquid cool the CPU only? If it's a reference design 1080TI then you can use a bottom fan on the case as intake, the GPU will suck it in and exhaust out the top of the case.
Edited to add - the Shift X can also fit a 120mm radiator in the bottom if that helps - either a single 280 in the front, or a combo of 240 fromt and 120 bottom depending on thickness.
Edited to add - the Shift X can also fit a 120mm radiator in the bottom if that helps - either a single 280 in the front, or a combo of 240 fromt and 120 bottom depending on thickness.
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What about adding a single 120mm rad mounted where the exhaust fan is?
This used to be the old standard, back in the days of dual and quad core CPUs. But I don't think you can really go by that anymore, as a single 120 is not enough rad space to cool an 8 core+ CPU. Even if you're not OCing, your CPU is OCing itself by turbo boosting even in stock configurations.
