Intel or AMD

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what offers the best bang for the buck. I just started listing all the new parts for my Gaming pc but really not sure to go with AMD again or Intel I really want something that is fairly cheap and offer's great performance.

Thanks
 
Thats enough for a new cooling, and if you're lucky, maybe a PSU.

Not to sound rude, for that money you really can't expect POWERFUL CPU..

You can forget about intel, as the motherboards cost an extra £30 at least, which can be crucial factor in deciding what to get...

AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE is your best option I would suggest, and a high-end MoBo (either 890FX for Xfire or Asus M4N98TD EVO for SLi - which I would personally avoid like vampire avoids garlic)

Any other questions, just ask.

I am not an expert, but I am pretty sure with your budget you can't get intel.
 
Not to sound rude, for that money you really can't expect POWERFUL CPU..

You can forget about intel, as the motherboards cost an extra £30 at least, which can be crucial factor in deciding what to get...

AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE is your best option I would suggest, and a high-end MoBo (either 890FX for Xfire or Asus M4N98TD EVO for SLi - which I would personally avoid like vampire avoids garlic)

Any other questions, just ask.

I am not an expert, but I am pretty sure with your budget you can't get intel.

Thanks for your suggestion but I am sure you can get a powerful intel cpu, core i5 start from around £140 and heard great things about the i5
 
is that just ur budget for a cpu? cause thats all its gonna get u intel wise

That's what I'm saying, if you get yourself an x4 AMD (which is BETTER for games), you can get high-end MoBo with everything you will ever need on it, for about 100 quid... Similar MoBo for an intel will set you back around £150 mark, thats another extra £50 for NO PERFORMANCE GAIN.

I myself own intel, and always did since my Athlon 2600+ died, but if I was about to build a new budget rig now, i would go for AMD and for the saved money invest into an SSD or a better GPU, which would give me more performance.
 
That's what I'm saying, if you get yourself an x4 AMD (which is BETTER for games)

Since when? The best budget gaming CPUs now are both Intel.

Intel Pentium 1156 (basically an I3 without the HT) is around £70 and OCs to 4ghz

I3. Around £100 and OCs the same.

Games respect overall speed more than cores. Most games don't even use more than two cores any way.

Pentium

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-pentium-processor-g6950-(3m-cache-280-ghz)-lga1156-retail

I3

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/inte...hz-4mb-cache-73w-integrated-gpu-733mhz-retail

Infact completely ignore the Pentium. I3 = teh best budget gaming CPU around ATM.
 
thanks for all your suggestion I might go for intel this round not sure what one but I have never used intel before in my rigs, any suggestion what intel cpu I should get?
 
What are you going to use it for?

Gaming on a budget I3. the most important part in a gaming system is the GPU.

Gaming mid level I5.

Gaming high level I7.

Media encoding I7 X6.

Only go AMD now if you already have a board and ram and can do a straight drop in.
 
Yeah, but you dont want to get yourself an extremely cheap CPU, and be upgrading next year or so... Most of the new games do support more than 2 cores, and there is a £30 difference between cheap i3 and high-end quad AMD. For an extra £30 you prepare yourself for next 3 years coming, and you probably save £20 -£30 on a MoBo with the same specs anyway.

The money is yours, get any of those.

You can't beat quad AMD pricewise or performancewise with any intel. They overclock well too, being BE's with unlocked multipliers.

As I said, I'm not an expert
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Yeah, but you dont want to get yourself an extremely cheap CPU, and be upgrading next year or so... Most of the new games do support more than 2 cores, and there is a £30 difference between cheap i3 and high-end quad AMD. For an extra £30 you prepare yourself for next 3 years coming, and you probably save £20 -£30 on a MoBo with the same specs anyway.

Games respect frequency. The higher the clock the better the game will run. Go read a couple of reviews. The 1090T in stock guise is pretty weak for gaming. It's only when you slap a big overclock on it that it comes to life. (it's down to bottlenecking)

The money is yours, get any of those.

You can't beat quad AMD pricewise or performancewise with any intel. They overclock well too, being BE's with unlocked multipliers.

As I said, I'm not an expert
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It doesn't seem like you're an expert no. Every review, every publication and pretty much every website will tell you the same. When it comes to budget gaming Intel rule the roost. You can get a £70 CPU to 4ghz easily. Very very easily. Try doing that with an AMD. My 940 goes to 3.4ish ghz (3.6 but Mafia 2 crashes it oddly) and then hits a brick wall. The new Intel budget CPUs are 32nm meaning very low heat meaning massive overclocks can be put on them.

Up until the I3 and new Pentium (which is an I3 without Hyper Threading) AMD had it made with the Athlon 2 x2. There was nothing within that price to compete with it. And then the I3 and Pentium came along and Intel now own the low cost gaming arena.

I'm not being nasty mate those are just the facts. Nothing AMD produce for £70 can go anywhere near the I3 and Pentium. And, nothing AMD make sub £150 can touch Intel either. the 1055t is a good choice as it actually has some decent overclocking potential, but it will get run very close and in some cases beaten by a comparitively priced Intel. And when you step above the 1055t you are then firmly in Intel territory.

So as I said the only reason you would want to buy a new AMD is because you already have a perfectly working system that you fancy upgrading. If you are going to start from scratch it's a bit silly to go AMD unless you're a die hard. Socket 1156 takes so many CPUs now it would make your head spin. And it doesn't need to be a great big expensive board either. This one

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/giga...(x16)-ddr3-1600-1800-2133-sata-3gb-s-vga-uatx

Allows the full 4ghz potential of the I3/5 series *and* supports SLI and Crossfire with dual slots. The only thing you lose with that board is about an inch and a half off the bottom with no loss of functionality at all.

£150 for a board and CPU (I3 and that board) and nothing AMD make can come close. Nothing.
 
I plan on getting an AMD, while Intels are really good atm, esspecially with the i7 cores, they are too expencive, i can get a SLI mobo,quad core AMD CPU black eddition and 4gb RAM for not much more than the price of the i7 930 CPU ALONE.
 
I plan on getting an AMD, while Intels are really good atm, esspecially with the i7 cores, they are too expencive, i can get a SLI mobo,quad core AMD CPU black eddition and 4gb RAM for not much more than the price of the i7 930 CPU ALONE.

Which AMD? I5 dude... I5. Give me a minute got a couple of pics here

OK brief rundown. These recommended specs are from Custom PC magazine. There are very VERY few people that I have any respect for (nor listen to) when it comes to reviewing hardware. This is because most of them are bumboys and are being bribed or looking onto products kindly when reviewing to make sure they get more. So, given that I am incredibly skeptical and trust no one (not even TTL until I have seen a second opinion !) then it's hard for me to endorse any one reviewing products, or, to trust in a product. It's my money after all.

However, I always find TTL absolutely bang on the money. I also find Custom PC bang on the money. Give them a sh*t product and they will tear it limb from limb. So, without further ado here are their recommended PC systems this month. Please bear in mind at the time of print the I3 was £93 so the Pentium was better value. Note the board and PSU?

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Now that system used to have a Athlon 2 X2 in it. Now it doesn't. For a reason.

Let's move onto mid range shall we?

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Oh look ! Intel again ! I wonder why ! So now let's warm things up and go onto performance.

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Hmm. Intel again. Cue the conspiracy theorists ! And now let's go balls out and be completely irresponsible.

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Hmm, that would be every single aspect of the PC build gaming world dominated by Intel. It's not because Custom PC talk rubbish and it's not because they don't get AMD chips to review. It's because it's PLAIN. COLD. HARD. FACT. Intel's CPUs are now better in pretty much every single department of gaming. If you don't want to listen? fine. If you want to ignore what the whole world is saying? fine. Why don't you set up quad SLI whilst you're at it and have done.
 
Is AMD going to release any new processors? and yh I have to agree with AlienALX after hours of researching intel are much better performance wise for the money.
 
They are going to bring out a new CPU soon called Fusion. It's basically similar to I series as it has onboard discrete video. It certainly won't use socket AM3 though, so that path is a dodgy one right now. There hasn't exactly been a huge range of X6 cpus either so I wouldn't invest into AM3 at the moment.

From the sounds of things the one to wait for is Bulldozer, but again that will use a new socket. AMD said they would support AM3 up until 2011, and that is pulling closer as the days pass.
 
I was planning on getting a AMD x4 black edition or x6 1090T, but ive worked out my budget, and i can aford an intel i7 930
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I would think AMD are going to bring a new CPU out, Intel have had the market for too long now, they need to come up with someone as powerful as an i7 but cheaper, which I dont think they can do, no offence to them.
 
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