HWmonitor causing crashes?

[garih]

I'm getting a little fed up with this Ryzen platform.

I have changed the CPU from R5 1600 to 1600x, and upgraded the mobo from Strix b350 to the prime X370.

I have clean installed windows on new M.2 and installed up to date drivers/bios etc.

but I am still getting some issues.
on this current setup, I have the ram at 2933 at 1.35v DOCP.
and the CPU is left on auto.

I have been trying to monitor using HW monitor but after a few minutes ( randomly, not same time each crash) the system locks up, black screens and has to be reset using PSU switch.

I have just checked and the Specific memory I have is not on the compatibility list.
My ram is CMU16GX4M2C3200C16, the 3000MHz version CMU16GX4M2C3000C15 is on the list though.

could this be throwing HWmon to crash? or could faulty ram do this? i have replacements on order to arrive tomorrow, in case it is mine faulty.

the only things left of the old rig is GPU PSU and an SSD.

I can Borrow my friends spare RM650 and see if that fixes the problems and my old GTX770 from the other half's system for testing.

but I can't see how either of those parts in my system are bad as they have been in use for at least 2 years without a hiccup!!

 

[Dark NighT]

Im going to ask the obvious question, but have you updated the boards bios?

 

[garih]

Im going to ask the obvious question, but have you updated the boards bios?

yup! That was done before I installed windows. 0807 was the latest showing this morning, just checked again now and 0810 is listed. will try that now!

Bios now update again. and just had another crash. (with CPUz open) so busted the ram down to 2133. will see how that goes

 

[S_I_N]

I know on my Z270 rig if my oc isnt stable i cant get HW monitor to load at all.

 

[garih]

But this is without over clocking. Ofc the chip does its own auto thing. If the replacement ram tomorrow doesn't fix it I'm going to return the lot and order a 7600k and z270

 

[AlienALX]

Have you ran a memtest per chance?

 

[garih]

Have you ran a memtest per chance?

I tried to. Didn't really understand what to do tho.
I opened it and just left it doing something for a good hour or so and it didn't say any errors...
I have just placed an order for ̶7̶6̶0̶0̶k̶ 7700k Strix z270f and Corsair LPX 3000. This time ensuring to check the QVL on the mobo.

 

[Thelosouvlakia]

what about hwinfo does it also crash your system?

 

[garih]

what about hwinfo does it also crash your system?

That's the main culprit (and the title of this thread)

 

[Thelosouvlakia]

That's the main culprit (and the title of this thread)

HWmonitor is made available by cpuid.




there is also https://www.hwinfo.com/ which has a great reputation being the only thing that works with amd chips. I recommend going for the beta version

 

[garih]

HWmonitor is made available by cpuid.

there is also https://www.hwinfo.com/ which has a great reputation being the only thing that works with amd chips. I recommend going for the beta version

oops, I should have read your post properly...

Ok so... this crashes also... with no overclock. Ram at 2133. No benchmark. Just open hw info, open sensors... it says a sensor could cause issues want to disable? (Tried it both ways) as soon as I put any load on the system crashes. Without any monitoring open I can run most things trouble free including cinebench.

 

[Dicehunter]

Hwinfo and Hwmonitor won't make your system crash, It sounds like there is a hardware fault somewhere.

Go into the bios and load optimized defaults and try again, I've been using both bits of software for years and never seen either crash anything as they are just monitoring and not changing any volts or clocks etc....

 

[garih]

Hwinfo and Hwmonitor won't make your system crash, It sounds like there is a hardware fault somewhere.

Go into the bios and load optimized defaults and try again, I've been using both bits of software for years and never seen either crash anything as they are just monitoring and not changing any volts or clocks etc....

This has happened with both boards and CPU's. I have also tried with only one of the ram sticks at a time. but still, it persists.

The GPU PSU and storage except for the M.2 have been used for years and had no problem using any monitoring software at all.

I'm giving up on AMD for this generation.
I have ordered 7700k etc. I don't expect to need to upgrade for another 5 years at least! If the 2500k is anything to go by.

It is a shame as I really wanted this to be a good experience.

I don't stream or encode videos so the extra threads are kinda wasted on me!

And yes I know the 7600k is a better value option, but I just want a rock-solid stable beast of a rig with the extra threads in case games ever truly go multi-threaded!!! Is that too much to ask for?

I don't want to regret the I5 in a year or 2

 

[Dicehunter]

5 years ? That's a tad optimistic with trends in gaming as of late going the "more cores" route , Should have waited literally 1 day as Coffee Lake 6 core 8770K is releasing at the same price as the 7700K but around 15% faster on the 21st of August which is now in the UK.

 

[garih]

5 years ? That's a tad optimistic with trends in gaming as of late going the "more cores" route , Should have waited literally 1 day as Coffee Lake 6 core 8770K is releasing at the same price as the 7700K but around 15% faster on the 21st of August which is now in the UK.

Aah crap... well, I have now requested a cancellation on all the parts I ordered yesterday... due to arrive today! Gotta love Amazon prime.

god only knows how long until stock's and stability is sorted tho. ( i will accept TTL's word tho!)

erm, Desktop coming this fall? I don't think I can wait this long...

 

[Dicehunter]

Aah crap... well, I have now requested a cancellation on all the parts I ordered yesterday... due to arrive today! Gotta love Amazon prime.

god only knows how long until stock's and stability is sorted tho. ( i will accept TTL's word tho!)

erm, Desktop coming this fall? I don't think I can wait this long...

Fall i.e Autumn is only 4 weeks away, Surely there's nothing life threatening that you can't wait 4 weeks for a CPU that has much better longevity than the 7700K ? ^_^

 

[garih]

Fall i.e Autumn is only 4 weeks away, Surely there's nothing life threatening that you can't wait 4 weeks ? ^_^

I have to return this amd stuff. Meaning I won't have a pc. If I knew for certain it would be 4 weeks until they release it I would get by. But even if they got that right, how long until it is in stock. How long until the initial bugs are ironed out??

 

[Dicehunter]

I have to return this amd stuff. Meaning I won't have a pc. If I knew for certain it would be 4 weeks until they release it I would get by. But even if they got that right, how long until it is in stock. How long until the initial bugs are ironed out??

Return everything and wait the few weeks, Not exactly a world ender unless you're doing time critical cancer research ^_^

 

[garih]

Return everything and wait the few weeks, Not exactly a world ender unless you're doing time critical cancer research ^_^

But but... that means I have to play Xbox!!!

All joking aside. If I want it to last years, it is the only logical choice. Or just have the 7700k and regret not waiting...

 

[Dicehunter]

But but... that means I have to play Xbox!!!

All joking aside. If I want it to last years, it is the only logical choice. Or just have the 7700k and regret not waiting...

Exactly, Honestly it's worth waiting as it's mere weeks, If it was my money I'd just play the Xbox and wait the few weeks and have some shiny new tech that has much better longevity than Kabylake