Hose issue

[paulstung]

I have just opened my rig to put some dye into the loop , but noticed that the outlet hose on the block , has kinda kinked . The hose is going straight into the res , there is enough play in the hose to allow me to pull the res out for filling , so it's not tight . Also the fitting wasn't tightened enough , to cause the hose to be puled around by the fitting . They are the only 2 things that I can think could have caused this to happen .

I did notice that when I opened the case there was a noticeable amount of heat , more than I have felt before . The only other thing could ii be the heat from the gfx card ? When I touched the hose , the pcb did seem to be giving off a lot of heat . My gfx temps right now is showing 39 deg , with me just on the forum . I'm lost on this one . maybe some non WC noobs have an idea . Looking at the pic it does seem to be right above the gpu , I have upped my fan speed to see if it helps .

 

[jamesriley94]

I'd have thought maybe a slightly longer tube, or maybe a 45 degree angle fitting would fix that.
What size tubing is it? Looks a little thin?
Also what brand? Some of the cheaper stuff has been known to kink easily.

 

[paulstung]

It's Materkleer 13 / 10mm . From taking a closer look , and having a good feel of the tube , it quite warm . It has to be the gpu heat causing it . Will the hose being kinked put extra pressure on the pump , almost acting as a restriction ? I have got some small clamps here would it make sense to put one on to counter act the kink , just to keep it in shape ?

 

[jamesriley94]

It's not going to be the grapihcs card...
If your graphics card could heat up the case temperature to enough to cause the tubing to melt, then you'd have far bigger problems than a little kink...

Your using thin tubing, that'll be part of the problem.

Then also it's being pulled at an angle it doesn't like - causing the kink.

If it's anything to do with heat, it'd be the hot liquid coming out from the CPU loop...

Add a 45 degree rotary fitting, that would probably fix it. If not, think about changing your hose to 7/16 or 1/2 - although I understand that would mean change your fittings too.

I use masterkleer 7/16 on 1/2 barbs, and there's no way that would kink in your situation.

 

[Timeless]

Monsoon makes some nice looking 45° fittings so like James said get 2 of those and you can run the tubing pretty straight from the cpu block.

 

[paulstung]

2 fittings ordered . Will it be safe for a few days ?

 

[Timeless]

Guess it will be ok as long as the tube isn't completely blocked.
You could clamp it on the kink itself like you said so it stays open till the fittings arrive.

 

[jamesriley94]

Keep an eye on temps, it should be okay for a bit.

Is it possible to push the res a little further in? Even if it doesn't match up on the front for a few days, if it fixes the problem temporarily, might be worth doing it.

In future, use thicker hose.

 

[paulstung]

yea it should go in a few cm's , you can't see it behind the Phantom door . There isn't any pressure on the hose though , it's not tight at all , if anything its still a bit loose . I will give it a push in though .

I've got a small clamp here I'll whack that on just to help it a bit . Cheers both .

Right the clamp idea was a no go , so I found a piece of pvc tube , cut it down the middle pushed it on and taped it up . It is doing as expected and helping to keep the hose in shape. I did notice though that the loop in the hose was causing it to be pulled down , so I tied an old piece of cable to the roof and around the hose to aid in that too . It is all taped up well with no chance of falling off .It doesn't look pretty but it's doing it's job .

 

[jamesriley94]

There's still the weight of the hose pulling the kink though. Pushing the res back should push the hose a little and remove the kink.

 

[paulstung]

With the block can you reverse the inlet / outlet ? Or is it design for one certain way ? I only ask because I took my Phobya block apart , and there is no visible difference , to either side

 

[airdeano]

on Tom's ORCA tribute, he reversed the koolance flow and stated a possible
temperature difference would be something to look into.

most blocks are designed with an inlet and outlet. but this temperature would
vary from build to build. honestly 3°-5° may not be a big deal to some, to others
it might be. you won't know until you try yours in both situations.

but you know you are only band-aiding the real issue.. use thicker walled tubing
or use angled adapters. straighter tubing runs kink less...

 

[tinytomlogan]

That hose will need replacing now mate. you dont need to do anything other than not kink it when you fit it next time. You case will never lend itself to being tidy with that config.

 

[TBash]

Probably no even close to whats wrong but just looking at it i would be lead to believe the hose is torqued in one direction thats why the kink looks as though its spiraling away from it instead of being a fold in the line. Im guessing that occured when you put one side in then attached it to the other which caused the line to twist. Did you put the hose on then clamp down the compression fitting or put both fittins on then screwed them in or some combo of that. Thats all i could imagine causing that problem the only other option would be bad tubing.

 

[paulstung]

I now guys , it looks bloody aweful , new hose and fittings are on the way . I had a fealing that was what happened , it got pinched when I tightened it . Regarding how I done the fittings up I put the collar over the hose , then pushed the hose onto the fitting then slid the collar down over the fitting / hose and tightened . The way you use compression fittings .

The one thing I will say about the monsoon fittings if you even tighten the compression a little bit tighter than the fitting end , they will come off in one piece , it happened before I shortened the outlet hose , and changed the block . I took that length of hose hose off both ends . I think I might have cut the wrong end of the hose , the end that got pinched when I took it off . It was a bit of a chore trying to remove the hose when it was still connected to the hole fitting . I now for the refit . We live and learn ...