Help needed- Been out the game a while

[NeverBackDown]

Micro stutter is not stuttering. Micro stutter is a multiple GPU problem. Stuttering can be from CPU bottle-necking GPU. Sandy bridge and onward not really going to happen (stuttering) except in a few niche cases.

So yeah OCd 2500K still rocking most if not all games. Above a certain minimum, limit is all GPU.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-review

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Skylake-vs-Sandy-Bridge-Discrete-GPU-Showdown

Yes it does provide a huge benefit to frametimes especially in SLI/Xfire. Bad frametimes can result in some stuttering. Also that article you linked shows that Sandy is pretty far behind Skylake in terms of peformance. Even when clocks are equalised. It's anywhere from 10-20FPS slower. I don't see how you can claim it's just as good when the tests you linked clearly show the opposite.

 

[Arne Saknussemm]

It's weird...you even quote my post... where can you see I "claim it's just as good"

The article you link shows what...an 8% improvement under some circumstances...little or no at 2560x1440...at what though...stock clocks? If you OC a 2600K what then?

Just more industry marketing blurb....sure some numbers are different....what about the gameplay....the in game experience....the in front of screen user experience...not a word. Metro! No difference....LOL if that doesn't tell you something....

Update if you want to...I do...enthusiasts do...but "need to" "have to" "'cos my FCAT is better or summin init" nah....just stuff people tell themselves...

 

[NeverBackDown]

It's weird...you even quote my post... where can you see I "claim it's just as good"

The article you link shows what...an 8% improvement under some circumstances...little or no at 2560x1440...at what though...stock clocks? If you OC a 2600K what then?

Just more industry marketing blurb....sure some numbers are different....what about the gameplay....the in game experience....the in front of screen user experience...not a word. Metro! No difference....LOL if that doesn't tell you something....

Update if you want to...I do...enthusiasts do...but "need to" "have to" "'cos my FCAT is better or summin init" nah....just stuff people tell themselves...

You stated it was rocking all modern games. Any CPU run a modern game... however compared to Skylake the sandy chips are well behind. You made a bad claim there.

The article I linked was not meant to show performance differences. It was for frame times and the vast improvement with Skylake. If you couldn't catch that after we were discussing the stuttering problem, then I see no reason to continue to debate.

FYI the in game exp is better with Skylake, better frametimes under single and multi GPUs.

 

[Arne Saknussemm]

So yeah OCd 2500K still rocking most if not all games.

You stated it was rocking all modern games.

Isn't the quote function marvelous...you can even quote yourself to see exactly what you said ;-)

Again...what is the "claim"...I'm not sure now LOL

oh yeah "vast improvement"...hehe...no.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Isn't the quote function marvelous...you can even quote yourself to see exactly what you said ;-)

Again...what is the "claim"...I'm not sure now LOL

oh yeah "vast improvement"...hehe...no.

That is a claim. However no sense in debating with someone who is a smart ***. Just goes round and round in circles like it already has. Don't reply to this, let's keep it on topic and help the OP.

 

[Simpsonite]

Back again folks.. Thanks again for all your advice, been away for a while as I may have been building the new rig...


OK now I know some of you will berate me (feel free to as I am a tart ) but...
I may have had an "uncontrollable hand spasm" when putting a scan basket together to "price up" how much a skylake build would be. That's what I keep telling the bank balance anyway

Specs are:
!7 6700k skylake running at stock 4.0ghz,
ASUS Maximus Viii Hero Motherboard
32gb Corsair dominator platinum @ 3000mhz
Corsair H100i GTX Cooler
XFX Radeon R9 4gb GPU***
Corsair AX1200i PSU***
Corsair Obsidian 900D Case***
480gb Corsair neutron XT SSD
2x 150gb Western Digital Raptor-X 10,000rpm HDD***
300gb Western Digital Velociraptor 10,000rpm HDD***
Windows 10
Oh and ultra-tarty individually braided cables

***=the bits that didn't go bang from the old rig.

Should run fallout 4 right

 

[NeverBackDown]

If the price is bothering you, drop down to 16GB of memory and drop the psu down to a 650/750 watt unit if you are running single GPU. Also i highly recommend you get a smaller and cheaper case. 900D will be wasted without EXTENSIVE watercooling plans. Something like a Fractal Define R5/S or an Arc series. Could also stick with a 750D if you want a full tower. I also think the Phanteks Enthoo Pro would do you good if again you want a full tower.

 

[AlienALX]

I would have gone for the 5820k myself. Honestly? if I paid Skylake prices? I would have to kick my own a**.

I just could not justify it, no matter how much money I had.

I agree about the 900D too. When I built my 'dream rig' last year I decided it would be a good idea to buy a Cosmos 2. Sadly it was honking and absolutely huge and when I tried to sell it there was no way I could post it so I ended up taking it to the landfill.

If you're going with air/basic AIO cooling then I would totally give it a miss. It's just not necessary.

 

[barnsley]

I would have gone for the 5820k myself. Honestly? if I paid Skylake prices? I would have to kick my own a**.

Same here. Also it'll be more future proof as you'll be able to pick up a cheap 5960X a few years down the line too.

 

[Davva2004]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. the i7 6700K make absolutely zero sense right now, until prices drop significantly.

If you're spending £300 or local equivalent on a CPU, why would you choose a 4 core 8 thread CPU with a built-in GPU you'll never use, instead of a 6 core 12 thread CPU without the wasted GPU silicon? The boards for x99 and Z170 cost about the same at the top end, they take the same memory, in gaming benchmarks they perform identiv#cally and in any other real world use like video rendering, photo editing, file compression etc the 5820k kicks the 6700Ks ass - unless you carefully choose single thread only benchmarks to prove a dumbass point.

 

[Simpsonite]

After selling a few old parts online I had a bit extra to play with,
also some silly person at the bank gave me an interest free credit card so have a year to pay it off, no panic #

900D will be wasted without EXTENSIVE watercooling plans.

It did have... (until my last motherboard died and took half the rig with it. It had two 480mm radiators in it, large res and full water-cooling loop. Of course now, i'm left with the rads/pump and a whole load of obsolete waterblocks for a dead motherboard... just waiting for someone to produce a set of blocks for this board and ill set about another loop.

I would have gone for the 5820k myself. Honestly? if I paid Skylake prices? I would have to kick my own a**.

I just could not justify it, no matter how much money I had.

I keep thinking that myself. Consider me kicking my own ass when it was all said and done, there was around 200quid difference between all the builds i'd priced up following all the suggestions you guys gave me after finding various offers/bundle deals online.

Same here. Also it'll be more future proof as you'll be able to pick up a cheap 5960X a few years down the line too.

True, although by that time Intel may have come out with yet another design that takes up the mantle. Or AMD make one hell of a comeback with their APU systems?

 

[AlienALX]

Same here. Also it'll be more future proof as you'll be able to pick up a cheap 5960X a few years down the line too.

Quoted for truth.

 

[firefly]

. Using Windows 7 now though

Really stupid question... are M.2 and PCIe SSD drives bootable disks?

Yes - check the motherboard description first - it should say
Be aware that if you get an nvme M2 drive, win 7 doesn't have native support for nvme - you'll have to patch it first or simply upgrade to win 10.

I'm doing a clean install of win 10 in my new build (samsung 951 nvme) because a clean install of win 7 will be a pain.

(You could simply install win 7 on a SSD, patch the nvme drivers, then clone it over to the nvme)

 

[Simpsonite]

Hi folks, Sorry I haven't been online in ages! been working all over the place for the last few months. Thanks again for all your help with this I ended up with the skylake as it oddly worked out cheaper than previous gen parts?! (odd UK pricing at the time)
anyway, I just wanted to thank you all for your help, and your advice on the matter. Now I'm home I can actually start using the darn thing