GTX Titan - Doubt

[CACHACEIRO]

Hello friends

I have doubt if I replace my actual GCARD GTX 480 and use one GTX TITAN my Mobo Asus 3 Gene will support this awesome GPU card.

Someone can help me?:headscratch::headscratch:

Also, GTX Titan is better than GTX 690?

 

[seumasbeathan]

Titan is not better than a 690. It should work on that motherboard yes.

 

[Feronix]

No, a GTX 690 is quite a lot faster than a GTX Titan but keep in mind that the Titan is a single GPU and a 690 has 2 GPUs.

Your mobo will support it, but you will be stuck with PCI-E 2.0 and with a high-end card like the Titan/690, you might see a few fps difference here and there (when compared to PCI-E 3.0).

 

[alienware]

690, IIRC, is 20-45% faster depending on the game but it's always faster.

 

[CACHACEIRO]

Thank you, the problem is because I dont want to change this MOBO now because here in my country such things are expensive and I only want to change the GPU because my GTX 480 not support exactly 3D vision where has great drops of FPS when I play any game in 3D.

 

[antihero]

Kind of off topic, but I never understand why the Titan is always referred to as Nvidia's "flagship" GPU cause it is massively overpriced and inferior to the 690 anyway..

 

[alienware]

Kind of off topic, but I never understand why the Titan is always referred to as Nvidia's "flagship" GPU cause it is massively overpriced and inferior to the 690 anyway..

Because it uses their herculean GK 110 core which is the same core the Tesla K20X uses which costs £3000.

The 690 does what it does with a pair of massively inferior GK104 cores. It's faster, but it is more of a crude power than overall muscle and sinew.

 

[seumasbeathan]

Titan is nvidias flagship gpu, it may not be as good as the 690, but the 690 is 2 680's not 1 gpu.

 

[Feronix]

GPU = Graphics Processing Unit. In other words, the actual GPU, not the whole card. And yes, as AlienALX said, the Gk110 is way more powerful than the GK104.

 

[CACHACEIRO]

I agree with you, I mentioned Titan because the same one is single card and GK110 regarding the 2 GPU's in 1 like the GTX 690. I saw the reviews about the rumors of the GTX 780 and this card will be not much better than TITAN. Another interesting case.

 

[remember300]

GPU = Graphics Processing Unit. In other words, the actual GPU, not the whole card. And yes, as AlienALX said, the Gk110 is way more powerful than the GK104.

hehe maybe just maybe the 790 two gk110 processors ... 2k price tag though

 

[alienware]

I agree with you, I mentioned Titan because the same one is single card and GK110 regarding the 2 GPU's in 1 like the GTX 690. I saw the reviews about the rumors of the GTX 780 and this card will be not much better than TITAN. Another interesting case.

I can't see how the 780 could be anywhere near as good as Titan unless it gives more which I don't think is possible.

By all accounts the 780 will be a cut down Titan, cores that didn't make the grade.

Unless that's changed of course.

 

[SieB]

Titan, although the worlds fastest single GPU isn't really worth the price tag. Nvidia doing what they usually do and charge a premium for next to no gains in performance.

Just look at some of the benches for Titan, it barley beats a single 680/7970 in a lot of games and it's twice the price. If it was a £500 card it would be worth it but £800 is a joke.

 

[remember300]

Titan, although the worlds fastest single GPU isn't really worth the price tag. Nvidia doing what they usually do and charge a premium for next to no gains in performance.

Just look at some of the benches for Titan, it barley beats a single 680/7970 in a lot of games and it's twice the price. If it was a £500 card it would be worth it but £800 is a joke.

dont forget most of those tests are air cooled, the new overclocking feature on water cooled will helpo push that card even harder, plus how many driver updates have the 600 series had the titan has had 1 maybe 2?
in a years time see if its the same results

 

[alpenwasser]

Kind of off topic, but I never understand why the Titan is always referred to as Nvidia's "flagship" GPU cause it is massively overpriced and inferior to the 690 anyway..

Because it uses their herculean GK 110 core which is the same core the Tesla K20X uses which costs £3000.

The 690 does what it does with a pair of massively inferior GK104 cores. It's faster, but it is more of a crude power than overall muscle and sinew.

Precisely. The GK110 is more of an artwork in Silicon than a processing unit. :lol:

I mean, it takes quite a lot to produce a functioning chip with 7 billion transistors on it,
that's really rather impressive from a manufacturing engineering point of view imho. And of
course the chip's engineering itself is nothing to sneeze at either.

Not that it's not overpriced

 

[SieB]

dont forget most of those tests are air cooled, the new overclocking feature on water cooled will helpo push that card even harder, plus how many driver updates have the 600 series had the titan has had 1 maybe 2?
in a years time see if its the same results

Yeah but "having" to watercool it to get extra performance is also a joke. For a simple loop to watercool it you are looking at ~£200 and that's ontop of the price of the card which is already £800 so that brings you to a grand or more.

This time next year both Nvidia and AMD will have new architecture cards out and the Titan will be outdated. You are better off getting 2x680/7970 or a 690/7990 and waiting for next gen cards.

Driver updates will most likely improve performance but not by a substantial amount, unless the price drops by £200-300 it's still overpriced for what it is.

Just look at some of the benches for it.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/764?vs=768

 

[remember300]

im well aware of the benches, but if you got money to throw at a 800 pound card you got the money to cool it,
and im waiting for the 7XX series probs a 770 or a 780 depending on cost

 

[antihero]

Because it uses their herculean GK 110 core which is the same core the Tesla K20X uses which costs £3000.

The 690 does what it does with a pair of massively inferior GK104 cores. It's faster, but it is more of a crude power than overall muscle and sinew.

Sure, it makes sense from a marketing point of view, but I was talking about end users. Frankly it's not their best card. The core in the Titan being better means nothing if it doesn't yield better performance for the end user. At least in my books, a "flagship" model of something should always get the best performance. Titan is a bit of a pointless card if you can get better performance for less expense (690).

 

[alpenwasser]

Sure, it makes sense from a marketing point of view, but I was talking about end users. Frankly it's not their best card.

That depends on what you mean by "best". But it's certainly not the most powerful one, yes.

The core in the Titan being better means nothing if it doesn't yield better performance for the end user. At least in my books, a "flagship" model of something should always get the best performance.

The purpose of a flagship product is to represent a company's mastery of technology, to
project to the public and the competitors the skill and engineering capabilities of a company.

The Titan (or rather: the GK 110) is a much better representation of what Nvidia's engineering
department can achieve than the GK 104, even if the 690 is the faster card. It's probably about
the most complex piece of Silicon that has ever been available to the normal end-user, and as
such is a much more impressive technological achievement than the GK 104. That's why they
market it as their flagship.

Also remember: You can also run the Titans in SLI.

 

[antihero]

Well, like I said it makes sense for Nvidia to call it their flagship. They'd be stupid not to market it as their highest performance card. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore this card (or chip, rather) but the price is pretty ridiculous, especially because Nvidia convert the price 1:1 dollar to euro. Very Apple-esque. They'll keep on doing this because people will still buy their products.