Fractal Define R4 vs NZXT Phantom 410

[G-sus]

Building a new rig for my girlfriend, can't decide on the case. She narrowed it down to these two, the R4 and the 410. Both are white and the R4 window one. She wants a unique and clean look, not looking to watercool in the near future, don't need many HDD's, only an SSD and 1 HDD, would prefer a quieter case, but also relatively cool. A cheaper case is also a plus, since this is a budget build. Also it should have enough cooling for a 6990.

The Fractal has basically everything needed, but it has less space for possible watercooling, it has 140mm fans which are better for airflow, but they are more expensive. The sound deadening is nice and the intakes are filtered.

The Phantom 410 is bigger and has the looks, also enough space for rad in the roof, but the biggest issue is that it doesn't have any filters at all. All the fans, expect the top two, are only 120mm, which are cheaper, but provide less airflow. It is also more expensive, especially with all the filters needed.

Need some honest opinions here

 

[Feronix]

Phantom 410 for cooling,

R4 for clean looks, silence and a dust-free case

You said you didn't plan on watercooling anytime soon anyway, so I really wouldn't even look at that. 140mm fans may be a tad more expensive, but they also move more air at lower RPMs, so +1 for R4 and silence.

Also kind of depends on what hardware you want to put in. Single GPU will have enough air from those 2x140mm fans in the front, so unless you're going mutli-GPU and do overclocking on it I'd personally go R4

 

[Tripp]

i personally think the r4 is nice mate but it comes down to what your preferences are really

 

[G-sus]

Pretty much settled with the R4, now the question is window or no window?

 

[airdeano]

R4 with a window... silence, air-flow, and if it clean, you gotta show off the internals.

 

[G-sus]

Exactly my thoughts Thanks for the help guys, will be buying all the parts for the build next week.

 

[airdeano]

come and join the fractal club when your rig's built or in a stage.. itll be a great
place for others to "make that descision".

 

[G-sus]

Damn it, I can't find a White R4 with a window, only a black one, even asked if any of my local retailers could order it, but they can't And I certainly don't want to take a dremel to such a case.

 

[Assume]

I love my Define R4 with the window. It's incredibly quiet even with two 7870's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352025&Tpk=define r4 white window The white window version is in stock @ Newegg.

 

[G-sus]

I'm aware that Newegg has them, but unfortunately I'm not in the US. And I already checked, shipping would cost more than the case.

 

[Assume]

I'm aware that Newegg has them, but unfortunately I'm not in the US. And I already checked, shipping would cost more than the case.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/FRACTAL-DES...Q1G4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1358830237&sr=8-2
Amazon Europe has it.

 

[G-sus]

Do they ship to Europe? I don't want to create an account just to check. The black windowed version costs £100 at my local retailer, but no one has a white one

 

[Assume]

Do they ship to Europe? I don't want to create an account just to check. The black windowed version costs £100 at my local retailer, but no one has a white one

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=524836

According to their site they do ship to Lithuania.

 

[G-sus]

I just created an account, but sadly during checkout it says they can't ship it to my location.

 

[airdeano]

is there a white R4 (standard panel) an a window panel option? can your retailer
get just the white R4 window panel?

 

[G-sus]

No options listed, but I will inquire elsewhere, though from the looks of it, there won't be one. The official importer listed on Fractal's site doesn't have a white windowed R4 as well.