Folding on my 1090T

[jits h]

Hey guys,

Currently have my X6 1090T running @ 4Ghz stable, but I think its a bit too slow in terms of folding?

Currently running a P7809, and V7 is giving me a ETA of 18 days, with a TPF of 4 hours and 20mins :headscratch:

Now forgive me if I'm wrong, AMD CPU's aren't exactly the best for folding, but a TPF of 4 hours? Surely there must be something wrong here

PPD listed by V7 is at 127 (For my 1090T) Also, I've got a AMD 6970 folding too, will turning the gpu slot off help the SMP slot?

If you guys have a 1090T folding, knowing some PPD numbers would be nice

 

[Daewin]

AMD GPU Folding is very taxing on the processor, should help a lot to turn off the GPU folding.

 

[jits h]

AMD GPU Folding is very taxing on the processor, should help a lot to turn off the GPU folding.

Thanks for the reply Will turn it off in a bit I think. Work unit should be done soon

 

[jits h]

Ok, removed my gpu slot since work unit was finished, been a difference, ETA for my smp work unit is now saying 7 days. Is this still too long? TPF is @ 1 hour 52 mins

 

[aicjofs]

Still way too long, by a factor of 7 at least. Assuming this is a windows computer open task manager and click on CPU tab to sort by CPU usage. What is FahCore_A4.exe usage? Should be a fairly consistent 98-99%. If not what other processes are registering usage?

Also where are you getting TPF from? I never look at the V7 estimated. I look at the log tab and check time between each percent entry and do the math.

 

[jits h]

Still way too long, by a factor of 7 at least. Assuming this is a windows computer open task manager and click on CPU tab to sort by CPU usage. What is FahCore_A4.exe usage? Should be a fairly consistent 98-99%. If not what other processes are registering usage?

Also where are you getting TPF from? I never look at the V7 estimated. I look at the log tab and check time between each percent entry and do the math.

Had a peek @ task manager, FahCore_A4 process is using 82-83% no other processes are using any CPU usage (All reading 0). I've only got the FAH client and google chrome running.

And I'm getting the TPF from V7

 

[aicjofs]

Everything else is 0...hmmm. Do you have it set to "show process for all users"? I think windows 7/Vista defaults to just show the logged in user, and doesnt show services.

If it's still all 0 and you're sure you are seeing even system processes. Try configure-> advanced in your folding V7 app. What CPU usage do you have set?

 

[jits h]

Ahh, Found something that is using 16-17% CPU. Something called WDFME.exe (WD File management engine). System file I think though.

As for V7, CPU usage is 100%

Edit: Ended that processes. Turns out its some sort of program that my 1TB external drive uses. Lets see if it makes a difference to F@H

 

[aicjofs]

I think that is the culprit right there. Folding divides the work into threads, 6 in your case. 5 threads are getting done quickly and the 1 is sharing with WDFME. The other 5 threads have to wait for the 1 to finish to continue on, so basically the speed of your machine is held back by the 1 thread. The cliche chain is only as strong as the weakest link applies here.

I'm guessing this is some backup thing for an external Western Digital hard drive? I only searched for a minute but it sounds like that process has a few issues with CPU usage and Memory leaks. If you aren't using the drive you can see if you can normally stop the process. Or if the drive isn't plugged in you can force end it. I'm leery to recommend this as I don't want to have anything happen to your data/backup.

EDIT: Haha. I see your edit and are already on top of it!!

 

[jits h]

I think that is the culprit right there. Folding divides the work into threads, 6 in your case. 5 threads are getting done quickly and the 1 is sharing with WDFME. The other 5 threads have to wait for the 1 to finish to continue on, so basically the speed of your machine is held back by the 1 thread. The cliche chain is only as strong as the weakest link applies here.

I'm guessing this is some backup thing for an external Western Digital hard drive? I only searched for a minute but it sounds like that process has a few issues with CPU usage and Memory leaks. If you aren't using the drive you can see if you can normally stop the process. Or if the drive isn't plugged in you can force end it. I'm leery to recommend this as I don't want to have anything happen to your data/backup.

EDIT: Haha. I see your edit and are already on top of it!!

Yup, the ETA has gone down to 17 hours and yup the WDFME thing was for backing up my drive.

TPF is now at 11 minutes

Many thanks for the help

 

[aicjofs]

Glad I could help!

We all reap the benefit of you putting up 10,000 PPD++ or so vs 127 PPD(I think a P4 could even pull that haha)

 

[stevehat1]

Kind of watched this thread progress and didn't have anything definite to say as to what the problem was......

This is a classic example of applying the the "science of folding at home" to attaining satisfactory results to achieve the sciecne of folding at home to one man's expectations:lol:

 

[aicjofs]

This is a classic example of applying the the "science of folding at home" to attaining satisfactory results to achieve the sciecne of folding at home to one man's expectations:lol:

Haha! We had to apply some science when a 1090T at 4Ghz is pulling 127 points per day, because that math wasn't sitting right. I'm just glad we got it up and running like it should, I was 99% sure it was a process of some sort, first the AMD card and then something else, and finally decided to speak up.

It's funny, I'm an introvert by nature, and mostly just lurk forums. It seems every time I open my mouth I get way more attention then makes me comfortable. I had one thread about the Winchester and Venice Athlon 64's on MSI motherboards end up getting Anand's and Kyle(HardOCP's) attention and talking to MSI BIOS engineers. That got me into BIOS modding and I still get emails about helping people BIOS mod and that was 6 years ago. Then the latest was my AppleTV 3(2012) teardown. I just posted it on xbmc forum and it ends up with 100,000+ views and on engadget main page. Makes me want to just sit quietly in the corner.

 

[jits h]

Kind of watched this thread progress and didn't have anything definite to say as to what the problem was......

This is a classic example of applying the the "science of folding at home" to attaining satisfactory results to achieve the sciecne of folding at home to one man's expectations:lol:

Haha, very true!

Haha! We had to apply some science when a 1090T at 4Ghz is pulling 127 points per day, because that math wasn't sitting right. I'm just glad we got it up and running like it should, I was 99% sure it was a process of some sort, first the AMD card and then something else, and finally decided to speak up.

It's funny, I'm an introvert by nature, and mostly just lurk forums. It seems every time I open my mouth I get way more attention then makes me comfortable. I had one thread about the Winchester and Venice Athlon 64's on MSI motherboards end up getting Anand's and Kyle(HardOCP's) attention and talking to MSI BIOS engineers. That got me into BIOS modding and I still get emails about helping people BIOS mod and that was 6 years ago. Then the latest was my AppleTV 3(2012) teardown. I just posted it on xbmc forum and it ends up with 100,000+ views and on engadget main page. Makes me want to just sit quietly in the corner.

Once again, many thanks for the help Sent my 6970 back to folding, and the SMP/GPU are pulling almost 22k PPD

Edit: Didn't realise a small process running in the background totally killed off my CPU folding