Few things you should know BEFORE you ask to start in a match.

[|3ourne]

1) Always buy and save together. At the beginning of the round TYPE your money in team chat. It helps the strat caller to organize an attack better.

2) Learn this - Ts are supposed to attack on a bomb plant map and the Cts are supposed to defend. Meaning you HOLD your spots as a CT and not rush like a pub nub. Stop trying to be a stat whore. Its not needed , all that is asked for from you is you hold your spot like a tank. And if someone sees a T/CT somewhere , tell us where and how many and if you see bomb.

3) Use common sense. If you hear an AK/AWP/Any gun somewhere nearby and see ur teammate getting shot , HELP HIM rather than TK him.

4) The teamkilling has to stop. I think you have played enough games to know the difference between a T and a CT . STOP SHOOTING YOUR TEAMMATE. It not only drops their health but also gives away their position.

5) Learn to use your walk button. It helps. Its a match , where you dont want your opposition to know where you are , thus the walk button. Also it throws off someones aim if you alternate between walk/run. Its harder for them to adjust.

6) If a teammate gets shot by an awp long range and you have an ak/m4 , please dont try to fight him , he has the advantage. Run / flash do whatever you have to get out of there. Its imperitive that we keep as many people alive as we can.

7) Learn to play with sound. Its a legit wallhack. This is one skill I saw lacking in a few people. They can hear the enemy coz if Im looking through their POV and hear the person , then im sure they can too. Sound works awesome if you are trying to pre-aim at a guy or preshoot him.

8) At the start of a round , try to keep talk to minimum. The strat caller needs to know the money to decide what the team will be doing. And please do follow strats. And if a rush is called , dont go in one by one or stop half way through. Go together as a team instead of baiting one another.

More to come as I notice more.

Post below for any questions/comments.

Remember , I am just trying to make us into a more professional clan. I have done this before and I know we can be one of the best out there. We arent crippled by bad systems or bad aim. We just need to become more organized.

 

[FragTek]

All things taken into consideration

I really need to work on not shooting team mates... Like if I don't know where u are and u pop around a corner right on top of me i'm gonna pull the trigger on ur ass, it's inevitable, lol.

I'll see what I can do about that

 

[jiffz]

Of course we know all this! You think we're total noobs - Don't TK, use the walk button and listen. We know all this! The only reason we played like we did is because we havn't had a single practice together.

We all have different ideas in our heads and there was no real leadership, so we were all over the place! You were telling us things like 'dont buy guns'. Sorry im not gona run around naked with a bb gun. I'd rather kevlar and magnum for a chance to win the round, as I'm sure would many others. You can save up for your awp if you wish.

Plz don't talk to us like noobz, as soon as we get some tactics and manouvers worked out we will kick ass, but even if we don't its all for fun rather than a proper stressful competition!

Frag - I find the best way to try and stop accidental shooting is the radar, but even then you may be concentrating hard on the screen and accidentaly hit a teamate. I'd rather you have the fast reactions if you ask me! It's not as if we TK all the time, but whatever little accidents we do will be straightened out as we play more!

I understand you are a pro player Bourne and I respect that, but I feel as though you talk to us like total noobs. We'll see what happens after a little practice session then you can judge.

 

[|3ourne]

thank you jiffz for being honest. I do not think you all are nubs. However sometimes we do stupid shit.

About running around with BB guns , heres an ex. you buy a tmp , the T has an ak . He is running up long A and sees u in the Site , what do you ? Try and save your tmp ?

The very idea behind buying and saving together is that in any given round , every team member has similarly powered guns. It really doesnt help if 3 have deagles and two have mp5s.

there are 14 rounds each side. If you save one but get the bomb planted , moneywise , you will be secure for the following two rounds. Its not about this round but the coming two more rounds as well. Its really really important to have everyone on the same page.

You lose the first round , you have but around 1800 dollars , what do you do with it ? You buy a mac10 or tmp. Rest assured 99 % of the time we will lose the second round too. In which case your gun went to waste. Thats money that you could have saved to buy an ak but the third round. Its giving up a little to gain a lot. U think I like using a glock ? NO SIR.

However , if everyone has a decent amount of money , say for eg. 3000 dollars , I will call a deagle+armor save. Meaning you buy a deagle with 21 or so bullets and just kevlar. Then we slowly try to hurt the other team as much as we can. We have to keep them money fucked through out the match. U cannot risk them getting good guns all the time. Thus , if you lose the first round , then you save the next two , making 4th round the most crucial of the scrim. But you will have enough money to buy on the 5th round too even if you lose the 4th round. But say you bought 2nd round , you will be money fucked till the 4th or 5th round. Giving you a really bad disadvantage over the team.

Most teams buy Mp5 or famas 2nd/3rd round. If we lose the first round and save the 2nd round . We can buy deagle+armor 3rd round and still be a bloody good match to them coz I know about 90% of the SX members rock with deagle.

I am not trying to treat you guys as noobs , im just trying to make sure that you have money to buy guns till the last round even if we lose a few rounds in between. Sometimes someone will have more money , enough to buy two guns , at that point they will gun someone else. Think of the money that everyone has on your team as a collective bank , and everyone can only withdraw soo much every round. Trust me , big league matches are won by simple manipulation of the money system in CS.

Of course , if you dont take this seriously , then you can go ahead and treat every game as a pub round. where its do or die situation. Practice or no practice , I was sort of disappointed becoz all my calls and strats on d2 went unheard or werent followed other than by a select few. Rounds which we could have won easily were lost. The smoke in CSS is awesome , use it to your advantage , smoke any passage where u think there might be an awper sitting. Bet you ten quids , they wont be able to snipe u even if u stood there forever.

 

[FragTek]

I love using the glock, I get so many 1337 kills with that fine piece hehe

@jiffz: Yeah mate I rarely look at the radar as I'm uber focused on what's going on in my FOV. I hit u a few times today as u were running around on accident, soz for that I guess I should learn to multitask and watch the radar and screen at the same time, lol.

 

[JN]

Some good strats there |3ourne. Noted.

We need to get a LOT more practice together, we need to find out about eachothers strengths and weaknesses so we can better help eachother.

|3ourne has a very good point about the money, that i don't think aby of us took into consideration on Dust. If we had saved for a few rounds, then maybe we could have got some better guns and done some caining.

 

[FarFarAway]

I did as |3ourne said for the rounds we got told what to do. BUT it made me suck ass even more and we were all uncertain. We need to work together as a team. We're all good players so we need to get some practice in and soprt the buying and other stuff out

EDIT: And I'm the same as you frag: couple of times I popped Dave in the Head when he popped his head round the corner Soz Dave :wavey:

 

[JN]

EDIT: And I'm the same as you frag: couple of times I popped Dave in the Head when he popped his head round the corner Soz Dave :wavey:

Same here, i took some health from people too.

I think we was all on edge because we was up against stiff competition, and didnt want to miss out our chance of a kill and end up dead.

So from now on we all need to vow to check that radar more often, and more imporatantly have a stratedgy that we stick to, so we all know where everyone else is.

 

[FragTek]

I'm game for that, lol.

 

[Dav0s]

teamspeak needs to get sorted....

main culprits....

XMS: when you speak, hold the button down for what you wanna say, then LET IT GO. u have your mic on for sometimes 5 seconds after you speak

KEMP: when someone is stopped listening, we know you have 5.1 snd, but we have sound aswell, let us hear instead of listening to you sometimes, ur help is appreciated, but i remember one rnd u lost it for me.

ALL (including me): when you die, dont say "oh fuck" on your mic. there is no fucking need of it. just shutup and get on with watching the others (or at worst say something constructive)

bourne, sorry but i dont agree but not buying anything. i see now that you were basically saying "you wont iwn this, dont waste money" but at the time we went out to win. in future, just call it a suicide rnd, cos thats what it is.

about tking: one shot can be acepted sometimes, but lmao at jiffz who had to shoot eguy to the death..haha that was great

best point made so far by bourne, dont try and take on an awper with ur m4. just leave it til later in the rnd.

more points welcome.

 

[jiffz]

I was tryin to remember who I shot dead cuz I wanted to apologise to him. Sorry Eguy!! I actually forgot what team I was on! I do use the radar quite a bit, find it very useful to figure out where the enemy would be.

Bourne now you've explained to me what you are trying to achieve with the not buying weapons thing. At the time of game I really didn't get it, because I thought the enemy would win and get even more money where we would get m4/ak where they would have steyr (or T equivalent) and awps. When I see it in action, I'd be much happier to do it. I just hate the glock but I guess they'll be suicide rounds.

Does any1 know roughly how much money each the member/team gets for doing stuff (planting bomb, killing enemey, etc)?

 

[FragTek]

glock rounds arent always suicide rounds i can fuckin take names with that little beast.

 

[NickS]

Same, ask fraggle.

And I've seen fraggle beast w/the glock too

 

[FragTek]

Same, ask fraggle.

And I've seen fraggle beast w/the glock too

You get so many friggin rounds in that lil 9 that u can just sit and plink fuckers heads all day long ur bound to hit the head at least once

 

[|3ourne]

they dont have to be suicide rounds.

The aim of that round will be to get the bomb planted .

Here is an example , if you lose the first round as T , and u bought armor and didnt kill anyone , you will have 1500 dollars next round. Now take the same case , but with the bomb planted. Just the plant , doesnt necessarily has to blow up , you get 2200. Following me here ?

The game awards u money for getting at least one objective cleared , i.e. to get the bomb planted. The great thing about being a terrorist is that the ak is just sooo damn cheap.

A bomb plant 2nd round after a loss in first round , will put enough money in your pocket to buy an ak third round vs the cts mp5navy ( smg ) or Famas ( weak rifle ) .

Also we need to learn to stop auto-buying. There the most retarded thing a person can do. You dont need to buy full ammo if you are short on money , an ak with 60 bullets can easily last you the round if you know how to use the gun. Always think about the coming round , having enough money is always a boon in this game.

If first round you are not comfortable using a glock , buy a usp and a flashbang and 48 extra bullets. You will still have 50 dollars left.

As a ct , first round , always remember , buy a flashbang , one grenade and one kit and about one extra clip of ammo. If you see a terrorist with a deagle , he wont have armour and one nade will decimate his hp that u just need to shoot him once to kill him. Same if he has a usp. All this is in game presence and thinking . You can only develope this if even when you were pubbing keep analyzing your enemy. Thinking will win your rounds , aim wont. As a CT alternate your camping spots so the T cannot pre-shoot you since u were sitting in the same place for the entire past 6 rounds.

Let them get the bombsite if you are about to get overwhelmed , same ur ass , regroup and take the site together . Dont try to rambo .

 

[FragTek]

but but but but.... i love rambo'ing

 

[jiffz]

A bomb plant 2nd round after a loss in first round , will put enough money in your pocket to buy an ak third round vs the cts mp5navy ( smg ) or Famas ( weak rifle ) .

Ok thats where I think u were heading and makes sense, but..... won't the CT have accomplished their mission and get more money, bcuz they get M4s straight away. At this point to we glock it again???

Also we need to learn to stop auto-buying. There the most retarded thing a person can do. You dont need to buy full ammo if you are short on money , an ak with 60 bullets can easily last you the round if you know how to use the gun.

If you select primary ammo, it spends as much cash as it can up to 90 rounds. How do you buys single magazines?

Lol Frag I like ramboing too it's so fun. :ar:

 

[|3ourne]

use "," for primary and "." secondary , single clip buys. Cts will already have guns 2nd round. So if they arent dumb , they wont upgrade till like 4th round. If they are , they wont have any money for big guns ( AWP or M4 with helmet+kevlar and the nades ) . Either way , its a win win situation. 2nd round is all about faking. Send 4 one way , and one with bomb to the other site walking. Wait for the other team to rotate where the 4 guys are , presto , you have an empty bsite. .

Ramboing is a lot of fun in pubs. Thats what i do. but in scrims , ramboing is bad. One more thing , learn to walk all over the map unless u are rushing someplace or running to the site where the bomb is planted.

Cts do get money if the bomb is defused but its like 250 dollars. if we do a full save and get the bomb planted , u get ALOT of money compared to what the CTs get if they defuse. If we all die , we have just glocks to lose .

 

[FragTek]

Most of this stuff isn't new to me After playing many many CAL matches with numerous different 1.6 clans all of the same rules apply to CS:S.

Takes a lot more skill to play 1.6 though... the CS:S hitboxes are so fucking gigantic it's roflrific

 

[Eguy]

Most of this stuff isn't new to me After playing many many CAL matches with numerous different 1.6 clans all of the same rules apply to CS:S.

Takes a lot more skill to play 1.6 though... the CS:S hitboxes are so fucking gigantic it's roflrific

so true... ghey arsey boxes, Frag, I think you hold the title of Slayer with Deagle