Evga Sr-X vs ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS which is better for my clients pc?

[DwarfAdigginAhole]

Ok, so long story short I am building a massive gaming/graphical design rig for a friend of mine, money is not an option and the guy wants the best of the best, so which power house is the best of the best for Dual Lga 2011?

 

[I Hunta x]

Neither, as the current xeons dont support overclocking, 1x overclocked socket 1366 hex beats 1x stock 2011 hex so either go with a 3930k on a single cpu board and overclock it OR an sr2 and overclock it. both would give over all better performance over all atm.

 

[Stevo]

3960X on a rampage 4 extreme, applications don't really support Xeon setup's or utilize dual CPU configurations. an overclocked 3960X will beat anything hands down !

 

[Firat]

^^^common guys ofc there is major performance maybe not in games but in everything else like graphics as he is suggesting! He didn't even mention over locking.....

The xeons are 8 core btw,

For gaming you won't see any benefits on a dual Xeon over a 3930K, they are just about equal here but for graphic design and rendering you WILL see amazing performance.

I would go for it of money is no object, having 2 stock 8 cores and 32 threads will eat everything but at gaming it will be near equal to the 3930k.

So yes I would wait for the SR-X and get 2 x ES-2687W's and ENJOY.

1 overclocked hex core (3930k) = 2 x stock Xeon but only in games.

Don't get an SR-2 it's old tech and it's not worth it, plus soon 1 CPU should be able to beat it, I think the 3960x is close!

Hope this helps

 

[I Hunta x]

1 overclocked hex core (3930k) = 1 stock Xeon but only in games.

How did you get to that conclusion? last time i checked most games only support up to 4 threads, very few support 6 let alone 8, equivalent clock speed + core count xeons should be nearly identical performance to the desktop counterpart.

 

[Firat]

How did you get to that conclusion? last time i checked most games only support up to 4 threads, very few support 6 let alone 8, equivalent clock speed + core count xeons should be nearly identical performance to the desktop counterpart.

I meant 1 3960x = 2 xeons (my bad)

But from ttl's results the dual Xeons are near equivalent in graphics related benchmarks, most games don't use much CPU anyway but both setups give a similar boost to gpus.

I personally believe the xeons will last longer, 6 core vs 16 core, eventually more games will utilise more threads.

By getting the xeons he us not going to suffer game performance but will get amazing graphic rendering performance and have a good setup to last.

+ SB-E is going to be replaced by IB-E, whereby it maybe worth waiting for them (if you have time).

 

[Rastalovich]

Be good to know what "graphical design" entails. Software etc..

Gaming wize, if big bucks are spent on the cpu/mobo, the games are already spanked by anything i5 and above. I'd concentrate on GPU(s), drive setups, fastest memory.

The software is important tho.

 

[Firat]

Be good to know what "graphical design" entails. Software etc..

Gaming wize, if big bucks are spent on the cpu/mobo, the games are already spanked by anything i5 and above. I'd concentrate on GPU(s), drive setups, fastest memory.

The software is important tho.

Exactly games don't need a mad processor but graphics design, encoding and so on can use all 32 threads as TTL said.

As long as you don't have a pentium 4 in a system with a gtx580< and have a good 2 core processor, fps will not change much!!!!

 

[dugdiamond]

i, at one point, was going to build a SRx monster, as the main server for my render farm. but careful considerations drew me away from building it.

these are the costs: mobo (~£450); 2x 2011 xeon's (~£2900); 64gb memory (~£500); plus extras (GPUs; SSDs; opticals; cooling; IO devices; etc) = a ball park of £6000+.

this would give me a 16core (32threads), @3.1GHz, rig.......and it would ONLY be the server.

for £6000 i could get 6x (SIX) i7-3930K rigs = 36cores (72threads) @4.5GHz+... and 5 of them would only need to be switched on for renders, etc....

i have already "acquired" 2x i7-970's on sabertooths, from a school's upgrading (my mate is the head), for ONLY £500.

...the workload spread out over many identical systems in a farm, is faster as there are more BUS lanes for data to travel (???)

 

[Rastalovich]

.... but graphics design, encoding and so on can use all 32 threads as TTL said.

.... depending on the software.

 

[Firat]

i, at one point, was going to build a SRx monster, as the main server for my render farm. but careful considerations drew me away from building it.

these are the costs: mobo (~£450); 2x 2011 xeon's (~£2900); 64gb memory (~£500); plus extras (GPUs; SSDs; opticals; cooling; IO devices; etc) = a ball park of £6000+.

this would give me a 16core (32threads), @3.1GHz, rig.......and it would ONLY be the server.

for £6000 i could get 6x (SIX) i7-3930K rigs = 36cores (72threads) @4.5GHz+... and 5 of them would only need to be switched on for renders, etc....

i have already "acquired" 2x i7-970's on sabertooths, from a school's upgrading (my mate is the head), for ONLY £500.

...the workload spread out over many identical systems in a farm, is faster as there are more BUS lanes for data to travel (???)

True it's better but the OP is asking for 1 main build.

Agreed, so are you getting 6 3930K's then Dug?

 

[tinytomlogan]

If you need to ask this you shouldnt be building for them IMHO .... LOL

The review I did recently should have been enough for you to make the choices.

 

[dugdiamond]

True it's better but the OP is asking for 1 main build.

Agreed, so are you getting 6 3930K's then Dug?

i have 4 rigs, at the moment

the 2x i7-970s, a 1055t and a i7-870....so i currently have a 38thread farm @4GHz

but, YES - i will be getting 'a few' 3930Ks, each on an Asus P9X79 with a gtx560ti, 16GB ram and a 240GB SSD

approx. £1200 per rig (incl case, psu, kb, and mouse)

 

[Firat]

i have 4 rigs, at the moment

the 2x i7-970s, a 1055t and a i7-870....so i currently have a 38thread farm @4GHz

but, YES - i will be getting 'a few' 3930Ks, each on an Asus P9X79 with a gtx560ti, 16GB ram and a 240GB SSD

approx. £1200 per rig (incl case, psu, kb, and mouse)

I vote build log then take a photo of all your rigs in action!!!!

 

[SparkleDJackson]

i, at one point, was going to build a SRx monster, as the main server for my render farm. but careful considerations drew me away from building it.

these are the costs: mobo (~£450); 2x 2011 xeon's (~£2900); 64gb memory (~£500); plus extras (GPUs; SSDs; opticals; cooling; IO devices; etc) = a ball park of £6000+.

this would give me a 16core (32threads), @3.1GHz, rig.......and it would ONLY be the server.

for £6000 i could get 6x (SIX) i7-3930K rigs = 36cores (72threads) @4.5GHz+... and 5 of them would only need to be switched on for renders, etc....

i have already "acquired" 2x i7-970's on sabertooths, from a school's upgrading (my mate is the head), for ONLY £500.

...the workload spread out over many identical systems in a farm, is faster as there are more BUS lanes for data to travel (???)

they had 970 equipped sabertooths at a school. WHAT SCHOOL IS THIS. when i went to school the entire population rejoiced when we changed from those oldschool stinky cream coloured apple computer to hp pieces of crap. i left school in 04. so yes my school was using the same apple computers for like 15 years

 

[Firat]

my schools computers all had intel pentium 4 and omg even hyperthreading

 

[dugdiamond]

i cannot comment on which school it was - but they were ex-6th form PCs

i cannot show the the pics either - as they were supposed to be destroyed

IE: when i was in school, i got taught on ZX80's, the BBC modelB's, then TRS-80's for my exam (O-level)... but at A-level, i used XT286's, archimedes's, ps/2-25's, and a sharp X68000.

if you know certain people in various goverment sectors, you may hear of councils upgrading certain tech... the only things they cannot give you are storage devices

i know that a council HQ near me upgrades every two years, and that there is a skip out the back of the offices full of used components

 

[SparkleDJackson]

i know you cant say about what building lol. yea my mate works for a large company and has offered me countless things over the past 2 years. 23 inch dell ultrasharps for 100. i didnt realise what a deal that was or i would have picked up 3 instead i told him i was skint. just like most things in life it all depends on who you know lol. but even still 970s in a school computer. i hate being 23.3/4. lol. i found out recently that my old school has had an upgrade in that. they now have a state of the art music production suite and computer lab for music with countless devices like mixers keyboards decks etc. anything you would need to be the next skrillex (i dont like skrillex) adn when i went the music department consisted of i kid you not. 2 classrooms. each classroom had a piano that only the teacher was allowed to use and the pupils were priviledged to use a recorder and maybe one a term the class would get a share of the use of a giant xylophone

 

[Vicey]

Really depends what kind of applications he is going to be using. But strictly speaking if you want the best of the best be prepared to drop £2,799 total on two E5-2687W processors. That is if you really do want the best.

Motherboard wise I'd say go with the Asus because feature wise the EVGA SR-X and the Asus are pretty much the same except that the SR-X is larger. Both boards support overclocking but the new E5 XEON's do not so the fact the SR-X is designed purely for overclockers and record break attempts kind of goes out the window.

If however your friend wants to not buy a mortgage for his computer then I'd recommend a 3930K based rig and OC it to 4.6GHz

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

i7 over Xeon for sure. Unless you need the little option xeon offers (which are meant for servers) it is stupid to consider one. +1 on the 6 core i7.

How I built one for my client back with an 1155.

i7 2700k (CPU power is not as important in a workstation rig because of quadro cards)

Dual quadro 5000

16gb 2000mhz ram

EVGA z-68

500gb ssd

8tb of 7200 hdds