EU to Get Windows 7 without IE
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Rastalovich
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Microsoft referring to ftp links to download IE.
Thing with ftp'ing is that people are less familiar with typing stuff to get to places in their computers. Almost in a sense that, if ur mouse can't do it, I'm gonna need an IT guy to type something somewhere.
It is wholey possible for them to add the ftp link to explorer, I'm remembering u can do that urself with ftp sites u may regularly visit, and they appear in an explorer list similar to how network places show up.
What I can envisage tho, is browser manufacturers looking to make the simplest of address lines for their ftp services. Something like registering ftp://firefox.win7 - stick it in and one file appears in the explorer list.
Magazine cover cd/dvds will make a big thing out of it, like having ALL the browsers linked and demos of them, with pro/cons from their pov.
Another thing that may emerge is "no browser?" "hehe install this off my pendrive ^.~" (with the right product plus keylogger, monkey pr0n etc)
Thing with ftp'ing is that people are less familiar with typing stuff to get to places in their computers. Almost in a sense that, if ur mouse can't do it, I'm gonna need an IT guy to type something somewhere.
It is wholey possible for them to add the ftp link to explorer, I'm remembering u can do that urself with ftp sites u may regularly visit, and they appear in an explorer list similar to how network places show up.
What I can envisage tho, is browser manufacturers looking to make the simplest of address lines for their ftp services. Something like registering ftp://firefox.win7 - stick it in and one file appears in the explorer list.
Magazine cover cd/dvds will make a big thing out of it, like having ALL the browsers linked and demos of them, with pro/cons from their pov.
Another thing that may emerge is "no browser?" "hehe install this off my pendrive ^.~" (with the right product plus keylogger, monkey pr0n etc)
Rastalovich
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The lovely (often chucked in the draw with other bumpf) ISP cd/dvd will have something on it from a certain point I'd imagine.
Being as Microsoft would most likely charge them to have their browser on there, it'd likely be some Mozilla variant, google - something.
Being as Microsoft would most likely charge them to have their browser on there, it'd likely be some Mozilla variant, google - something.
PeterStoba
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What a bloody stupid thing to do.
You're all acting like this is your first pc and you're completely confused by this. Come on, how many of you didn't want to see a version of Windows without IE installed deep into the OS? True alternative browser users and security geeks will see this is a huge bonus; less exploit holes in the OS and the ability to install your favourite browser(s) right from the get go.
With regards to basic home end-users becoming confused by this whole affair yet again you're missing information:
Basic end users will be buying their PCs from a vendor and that vendor will be in charge of what browser ends up in the final build. If the vendor chooses to release the PC with no browser installed whatsoever then they've made a rather silly decision.. but that would still be the vendor's decision and not a fault of MS.
If anything this is a good thing for end users and the world of Internet security overall. The majority of exploits right now are carried out on unsuspecting home users running IE, if inexperienced users like this start being shifted to more secure browsers we could start to see a drop in this kind of problem.
The one concern I do have is regarding the false prophecy of programming for IE. A lot of manufacturers not too many years ago decided that their websites and web-interfaces (routers specifically) should be programmed to work on IE, not programmed to work correctly. Netgear is a good example of this and one specific problem model is the Wireless-G 318 model Virgin Media give away for free with their Medium, L and XL packages. The web interface works on alternate browsers but if you attempt to save your modified settings the outcome is unreliable.
Now your average end-user isn't likely to go ploughing around in their router settings but given how large Virgin's market share is and the fact that there are people who need to adjust these settings then it's likely to accentuate the size of the potential problem.
With regards to basic home end-users becoming confused by this whole affair yet again you're missing information:
Basic end users will be buying their PCs from a vendor and that vendor will be in charge of what browser ends up in the final build. If the vendor chooses to release the PC with no browser installed whatsoever then they've made a rather silly decision.. but that would still be the vendor's decision and not a fault of MS.
If anything this is a good thing for end users and the world of Internet security overall. The majority of exploits right now are carried out on unsuspecting home users running IE, if inexperienced users like this start being shifted to more secure browsers we could start to see a drop in this kind of problem.
The one concern I do have is regarding the false prophecy of programming for IE. A lot of manufacturers not too many years ago decided that their websites and web-interfaces (routers specifically) should be programmed to work on IE, not programmed to work correctly. Netgear is a good example of this and one specific problem model is the Wireless-G 318 model Virgin Media give away for free with their Medium, L and XL packages. The web interface works on alternate browsers but if you attempt to save your modified settings the outcome is unreliable.
Now your average end-user isn't likely to go ploughing around in their router settings but given how large Virgin's market share is and the fact that there are people who need to adjust these settings then it's likely to accentuate the size of the potential problem.
