Deal or No Deal??

[anklebiter]

Dear Fellows;

Please could you comment on the quote below; Its from Aqua Pcs and it doesnt include installation costs which is £30 per hour Im thinking at least 2 hours work..

I believe the items listed have a 9.4% markup on the price I can get them at online, Is this quote worth going for?

another thing to bear in mind I was looking for the GPU (sli), and CPU to be cooled in this Quote setup, thats using just one loop): Is this going to be cool enough?

Looking at my System, would you guys recommend cooling the Chipset too? is it worth it as Im only going to do minor OCing..(scared beginner) and presumably this would need a separate pump to do.

I was hoping to have the whole thing done for £400 but its rocketing, which is why I'm hesitating with Aqua-Pcs.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

There are other companies about to give quotes but this is the first one thats come back.

PS Clicking on the pick and zooming in does make it get bigger..

any other info please dont hesitate to ask, and thanks again for the help

 

[Dav0s]

in respect to the quote, we've said it before and we will probably say it again..

it usually always worth paying a slight bit extra to know you are dealing with a reputable company with good customer service. especially if you are spending that amount of money, it will be ncie to know that of something goes wrong with one of the items, you have the support of aqua-pc's behind you to get your build back on track.

as for the chipset, it might be something to think about for the future, but if this is your first WC setup, it might be worth getting some experience behind you first before trying a more advanced setup. it might be a nice project to upgrade to a chipset cooled system at some time in the future.

 

[anklebiter]

in respect to the quote, we've said it before and we will probably say it again..

it usually always worth paying a slight bit extra to know you are dealing with a reputable company with good customer service. especially if you are spending that amount of money, it will be ncie to know that of something goes wrong with one of the items, you have the support of aqua-pc's behind you to get your build back on track.

as for the chipset, it might be something to think about for the future, but if this is your first WC setup, it might be worth getting some experience behind you first before trying a more advanced setup. it might be a nice project to upgrade to a chipset cooled system at some time in the future.

Cheers Dav0

Your right this is my first WC setup or i'd build it myself, I'm hoping I can speak to someone about price-matching. I dont mind the build/labour costs, but the parts could be a little more in line with the retail prices I can find :s

Forgetting the price, do you think Ive got everything there?

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I'll post a pic when I get it all back,

Thanks for the speedy reply :worship::worship::worship:

Regards Ollie

PS has anyone else used any other reputable companies that anyone can recommend? I know everyone has heard of Aqua-Pcs but its slightly scary that there's no similar W'C specialists in the North of England (Yorkshire).

XSPC (750 pumps) and EK / D-Tek, GPU (SLi) and CPU blocks, are these better than the Alpha cool equivalents? anyone got any preferences as to brands,

Presumably if the pump is 750 l per h, and the blocks are solid copper it shouldnt make much of a difference - should it??

 

[cl0ck_ed]

XSPC (750 pumps) and EK / D-Tek, GPU (SLi) and CPU blocks, are these better than the Alpha cool equivalents? anyone got any preferences as to brands,

Hi, as you live in the uk its fine, I thought you are living in sweden from that quote you have posted.

You have seen my Watercooling thread. That was my first setup and is was very easy to do. All you need is a basic knowledge of how it works, for example to always have the reservoir just before the pump in the loop.

As for the pump. It isn't as good as the other components in your loop. The fuzion and ek blocks deserve better. I'd suggest getting the same pump as mine which is a Laing DDC 18w pump with xspc pump top. It has very good head pressure better then the popular Laing D5 vario.

But using this more expensive pump you'll also need a reservoir. So this will add quite abit to the cost. The xspc rad you have got is great, and it comparable to the popular swiftech mcr320 which is cheap in the USA.

 

[anklebiter]

Hi, as you live in the uk its fine, I thought you are living in sweden from that quote you have posted.

You have seen my Watercooling thread. That was my first setup and is was very easy to do. All you need is a basic knowledge of how it works, for example to always have the reservoir just before the pump in the loop.

As for the pump. It isn't as good as the other components in your loop. The fuzion and ek blocks deserve better. I'd suggest getting the same pump as mine which is a Laing DDC 18w pump with xspc pump top. It has very good head pressure better then the popular Laing D5 vario.

But using this more expensive pump you'll also need a reservoir. So this will add quite abit to the cost. The xspc rad you have got is great, and it comparable to the popular swiftech mcr320 which is cheap in the USA.

Thanks Cl0ck_ed,

Really appreciate your advice on the pump. I'm thinking Im going to get Aqua-pcs to build it too, then send the mobo case and cpu and gpu all ready for me to assemble the rest.

I guess if you think the price is good then I cant complain much, it seems you like the brands apart from the pump.

I'm not sure how much your super-pump will be, I know about a slightly better pump though, I'm thinking theres a slightly more expensive 1000 lph pump which might be better but again thats an extra £40 and I was told I'd have been able to get the chipset, gpu and cpu all cooled for under £400 in total..

this is already £500 hehe ah well

Thanks for the input about brands, Im glad that you like them all. As Dan0 said I can always add to the system at a later date, and have a separate pump/loop for my chipset cpu to my gpus..

I'm pretty excited about it all.

Regards

Ollie

 

[anklebiter]

Have been advised to build it myself and get them to send the parts/buy the parts myself, BUT Im a bit scared of adapting radiator to back grill, removing heat sinks from GPUs and fitting the blocks, and really scared of creating a system that leaks all over the place cos I havent bought all the parts and Im missing an 'o' ring...

meh also I guess AQ-PCs will give me help if I have any problems later on - if they build it.

Any suggestions?

Regards

Ollie

 

[PV5150]

I wholeheartedly recommend that you try doing your water-cooling yourself. You'll learn a lot more that way by ensuring that you don't make the same mistakes that you made the first time around. My best advice is to ask as many questions here (and of Aqua-PC's if you purchase your gear from them), plan your water-cooling loop/s well and take your time.

I felt the same way as you when I installed my first loop but now it's like 2nd nature. Taking the reference heatsink off my AUD$700 gfx card was so daunting at first, but now when I get a new one it's the first thing to go lol. Have fun with your gear mate and do it yourself

 

[cl0ck_ed]

The laing pump is an extra £29. Including the pump top

Pump:

http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/laing-ddc1-ultra-18w-696-p.asp

Pump top, this replaces the stock top of the pump giving better head pressure and higher flow rate and includes a reservoir:

http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/xspc-laing-ddc-top-reservoir-1240-p.asp

Ok: look here, there is a flow rate estimator on XS:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=151627

The pump that you have chosen is the same as the XSPC Dual Bay Reservoir Pump (750ltr), and the pump that i'm suggesting is the Laing DDC-3.2 (w/XSPC Reservoir Top).

You can make a decision yourself if the Laing pump is worth the extra money imho it is.

 

[anklebiter]

Thanks for your comments PV5150,

I guess its a learning curve, I would appreciate it if you can think of anything in my attached Pic/list of cooling items that I still require, or is absolutely everything Id possibly need on the list already?

Thanks

Ollie

 

[anklebiter]

The laing pump is an extra £29. Including the pump top

Pump:

http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/laing-ddc1-ultra-18w-696-p.asp

Pump top, this replaces the stock top of the pump giving better head pressure and higher flow rate and includes a reservoir:

http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/xspc-laing-ddc-top-reservoir-1240-p.asp

Ok: look here, there is a flow rate estimator on XS:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=151627

The pump that you have chosen is the same as the XSPC Dual Bay Reservoir Pump (750ltr), and the pump that i'm suggesting is the Laing DDC-3.2 (w/XSPC Reservoir Top).

You can make a decision yourself if the Laing pump is worth the extra money imho it is.

Completely see your point of view,

Ill be ammending the pump when I order it from Aqua-Pcs.

 

[khanage]

id say build it urself,like others have said it can be a bit daunting taking the hsf off an expensive gpu but as long as you take ur time theres not alot to go wrong.there are loads of good water cooling guides on the net just read as much as you can before starting.

it really isnt as hard as it looks,jusyt take ur time an route all the pipes neatly/correctly,double check everything inc barbs,clamps etc before you fill it up an remember never let the pump run dry,i always sit an have a fag an a cuppa an watch the loop for the first hour or so whilst its bleeding checking for leaks and major airlocks,better to do that than leqave it for a couple of hours an come back to find ur res half empty an have a wet case.

preperation is the key,have everything to hand and work in a calm relaxed manner an not alot will go wrong,start rushing an it can an will go wrong.

make sure you buy more tube than you think you'll need,im pretty sure most of us have been a bit short whilst installing a loop at some time but made do because we havent had enough spare to re do a bit of the loop an regreted it because it doesnt look right only to drain the system a few days later to get it right.

step 1=research

step 2=planning

step 3=buying the gear

step 4=installing(set aside a day for the install leak check an bleeding)

step 5=clock that mutha

step 6=enjoy

 

[anklebiter]

THanks Khanage, apprecaite the words of wisdom.

I'll try and find some good guides. have you seen any relevant guides for the gtx 280 in SLI though?

(about striping the heatsink,,) maybe the blocks manufactuerers will have it,

Would be grateful if u could checkout my Water cooling spec (on my first post in this thread-attachment) to tell me if the tubing should be enough?

the pump will be changed to the Laing DDC-3.2 (w/XSPC Reservoir Top)

As suggested by Cl0ck_ed

Many thanks

Regards

Ollie

 

[!TIMMY!]

XSPC Reservoir Top = Very good top, performed very well in Martins Liquid Lab results.

 

[anklebiter]

XSPC Reservoir Top = Very good top, performed very well in Martins Liquid Lab results.

Hehe well, that seems sorted !TIMMY!, changed the pump /pump top in the order, and I'll look into a different reservoir..

thanks for the comments

Regards

Ollie

 

[!TIMMY!]

Hehe well, that seems sorted !TIMMY!, changed the pump /pump top in the order, and I'll look into a different reservoir..

thanks for the comments

Regards

Ollie

??? the XSPC Reservoir Top is a top and reservoir in one. So you don't need a separate reservoir, therefore it will save space, and tubing.

 

[anklebiter]

??? the XSPC Reservoir Top is a top and reservoir in one. So you don't need a separate reservoir, therefore it will save space, and tubing.

well Oops.

Just looked at it again,

Now I feel a little stupid- great suggestion, and well pointed out.

In any case I have ordered the stuff, so should be arriving very shortly!

Thanks for the help,

Regards

Ollie

 

[ace8uk]

I was reading through the posts in your thread and was going to advise you to change out the pump, but it seems as though everyone has already told you that. Good luck with your watercooling, remember to post as many pictures as possible, because that Lian Li A77 is gorgeous

 

[anklebiter]

Thanks ace8uk,

I certainly shall. Should be all done by wednesday, so then Ill begin to OC

Muhahaha

anyway thanks for the support

Regards

Ollie

 

[anklebiter]

Thanks ace8uk,

I certainly shall. Should be all done by wednesday, so then Ill begin to OC

Muhahaha

anyway thanks for the support

Regards

Ollie

hehe Quoting myself, the only Badish thing about having a pump reservoir as it is, is that I wont have the rather phunky clear reservoir in hte hard drive bay, so I wont be able to see the coolant liquid all lit up/levels with out turning the rig sideways and opening the window. Ah well