Crushed my IC7-g :(

[Faaip De Oiad]

Board was working fine.... till I tried to get my case to close.

The thing is, I have a Mach II GT and the pipe pokes out of the case by about an inch, so I had to apply quite a bit of pressure to bend it inside, which inevitably put pressure on the CPU socket part of my motherboard.

Ever since then, an alarm sounds constantly from my motherboard and the BIOS displays a temp of 80deg C [when it is actually at about -30]. Can anyone explain to me why this is? Have I crushed a temp sensor? Or is the board just ****ed?

Oh yeh I tried reseating the CPU, problem still happens.

Tried using stock fan, problem still happens.

Tried CPU in a different board..... system works fine.

 

[Thickbrit]

I don't think there is a sensor for you to crush,sounds like you may have stressed one of the multitude of solder joints that connect the socket to the pcb a little too much.You may well have killed it,poor little thing.I don't suppose i can interest you in a well modded p4c800e dlx can i ?

 

[Gray Mole]

Oh no Faaip not again!

I noticed my line stuck out a little more than I liked, so, VERY carefully I bent the tube, a couple inches back from the head behind the braised section, to more closely match the case so it wouldn't push on it...

The pipe itself will bend, it's the braises at the unit, and the evap head, you want to make sure you don't stress, cos they CAN crack...

I'd certainly never tell someone to go and bend their line, cos they might blame me later, but that's what I've done, just enough to make space...before it's attached to the cpu socket...

It really does sound like the socket's been overstressed and something's given way...It's entirely possible that the temp sensor or the soldered section that carries the signal from the temp sensor(depending on the mobo/cpu) has been damaged, and repairing that can be pretty much impossible for the average guy...I'm sorry to hear it mate!

Gray

 

[imported_mrbios]

oh err you lot are scaring me, my mach2 pipe doesnt fit in the case properly either but i just thought stuff it and squashed it in there lol seems ok :/

 

[Gray Mole]

There's 3 main reasons to take care when the line sticks out...

1. You're crushing the insulation, and it's the insulation that keeps the cold in...over time you could get condensation on that spot with the crushed insulation, depending how flat it gets...the line heater helps, but it's good to take care...

2. You could stress both connections of the line...it's braised at both ends, and the end that's most vulnerable is the evap end...99.9% of the time, you won't hurt a thing, it does take some stick to crack it, but it CAN, and you don't want it to, cos it's a trip back to the shop for some work...

3. And this is the kicker, you CAN damage the cpu core, socket, and motherboard if you push and twist it too hard...sound like that's what happened in this case, unfortunately, and along with that, when your cpu's frozen, you COULD crack loose the plate(AMD64 heatspreader, etc.) cos cold makes adhesive somewhat brittle...

Anyway, I'm done preaching...there's only a few MOBO's that have the socket low enough to cause some issues with the line, if you're not careful (the MSI Neo2, for one, which I should be getting this week ) so just make sure you're not forcing TOO hard on that line...

The Vapo's, for whatever reason, don't seem to have as much issue, I think the line they use is a little more flexible, and not quite as long, so while it may not quite reach on some MOBO's, it rarely gives grief with space as often...but don't quote me on that, I haven't owned an LS...Yet

Gray

 

[imported_mrbios]

rather than being squashed down onto the motherboard mines squashed sideways to the back of the case, its not much of a squeeze though, about 2cm it sticks out the case.

 

[Gray Mole]

When I first had mine set up, the line bowed out about 2-3 cm out of the case, so I disconnected from the cpu, and held the line about 4 cm back from the braise on the evap head, and bent it to as sharp an angle as I could, WITHOUT stressing it too much, then did the same near the bottom of the case, holding the line so it wouldn't pull the braise down below...Then I straightened the line in between the two places I'd bent, so it wasn't such a dramatic curve, and it's now roughly even with the case side, maybe just touching it...

No leaks caused, and no future danger...It's not any kind of sharp angle, just 'tweaked' to fit better...

Like I said, I wouldn't really recommend someone to get right in and start manhandling their line, unless they can afford repairs, but I'd personally rather it wasn't crushing it against ANYTHING...that's just me...

You'd have to ask Phil what his take is on the subject as far as warranty is concerned...

Gray

 

[Faaip De Oiad]

Thanks for the replies guys, and Gray - I haven't spoken to you in a while! How are you? and how did fixing up my Mach II ST go?

I already knew about the possible damage to the system, and I had actually bent the pipe a bit so that it would squeeze into the corner of my case, but obviously not enough! ah well. Can hit 250FSB fine with this motherboard, (MSI 875P Neo FISR) but I really do miss those stable rails with my Abit boards.