Cooling review methodology

[marsey99]

The issue as I see it is that at this time we can't measure the core temps with any more accuracy and if Tom was to round the ambients too it would only widen the margin for error.

I know Tom is very open to constrictive criticism if there is an alternative solution that will improve the review ((and the data it contains) but as far as I can see the current methodology is as good as there could be in this case, unless you know of any way to give better readings that are accepted as accurate.

 

[marsey99]

The issue as I see it is that at this time we can't measure the core temps with any more accuracy and if Tom was to round the ambients too it would only widen the margin for error.

I know Tom is very open to constrictive criticism if there is an alternative solution that will improve the review ((and the data it contains) but as far as I can see the current methodology is as good as there could be in this case, unless you know of any way to give better readings that are accepted as accurate.

 

[marsey99]

The issue as I see it is that at this time we can't measure the core temps with any more accuracy and if Tom was to round the ambients too it would only widen the margin for error.

I know Tom is very open to constrictive criticism if there is an alternative solution that will improve the review ((and the data it contains) but as far as I can see the current methodology is as good as there could be in this case, unless you know of any way to give better readings that are accepted as accurate.

 

[Celticbattlepants]

The issue as I see it is that at this time we can't measure the core temps with any more accuracy and if Tom was to round the ambients too it would only widen the margin for error.

I know Tom is very open to constrictive criticism if there is an alternative solution that will improve the review ((and the data it contains) but as far as I can see the current methodology is as good as there could be in this case, unless you know of any way to give better readings that are accepted as accurate.

My suggestion was to round off the core means and deltas' to 2 significant figures, nothing else. Even better, just use one of the cores instead, highest would be best in my opinion, as this would be the worst case scenario.

 

[Celticbattlepants]

See you had the same multiple post problem as me

 

[Celticbattlepants]

The reason I suggest the rounding is beacuse it would better let us see where real differences are. In this case, only using 2 signficant figures, i.e. no decimal places, because of the reported temps, would be 'real' differences. Thats is we can be resonably confident a difference of a degree or more are actual differences. Is this making sense to anyone else (i know one person gets it and you know who you are

)

 

[Ya93sin]

A fine load of words there!...

That's what happens when I'm revising Physics exams, and going over experiment notes, and then I see a debate on the forums

 

[Celticbattlepants]

Ahh physics, I did that 20 years ago at uni for a year, I have forgotten almost everything (although I was introduced to precision and accuracy there ) good luck with the exams.

 

[Ya93sin]

Thanks

Physics is interesting to learn, but not to be examined on.

 

[Celticbattlepants]

I know you will think I am mad, and probably hate me for saying this, but after teaching at University, I can see the importance of exams.... BUT only as long as you have good teachers. Im not saying I was a good teacher myself, but I had a couple of good ones and they used the exam questions to structure the course, so as long as you put the effort in you would be ok in the exam. Anyway, I know that doesnt make you feel any better... Good luck anyway, and have a big drink afterwards

unless you are at school, in which case have a Ribena

.....

 

[Ya93sin]

One thing I've noticed is that good Physics teachers, and Maths teachers too, are hard to come by. Its one thing to be proficient at a subject, and be able to do it all perfectly yourself, but I can't say I've ever had a great physics teacher, but several good ones.

Maybe they became extinct? :\

Anyway, its too late now

And I'm not a particularly good student hahah.

Which University did you teach at?

 

[SPS]

One thing I've noticed is that good Physics teachers, and Maths teachers too, are hard to come by. Its one thing to be proficient at a subject, and be able to do it all perfectly yourself, but I can't say I've ever had a great physics teacher, but several good ones.

Maybe they became extinct? :\

Anyway, its too late now

And I'm not a particularly good student hahah.

Which University did you teach at?

The greatest teachers I had were for Maths and Physics

 

[Ya93sin]

I'm lucky enough to not be worried at all about Maths, but somehow that doesn't translate to Physics :S Ah well.

 

[Celticbattlepants]

Its wierd, I always struggled with Maths, still do actually, but I was always good at physics. I remember getting one good maths teacher (taught me and I passed the Higher, the Scottish A-level equivalent kind of) and one shit one (failed the same exam but a year earlier miserably) Things is, the good maths teacher said he was going to teach us like he was taught in the 1950s...

Anyway, I did a bit of teaching at Edinburgh Napier when I was doing my PhD. I really enjoyed it actually, but its bloody hard work! One of the best moments is teaching first years something like basic IT and literature searching, and they realise your not going to tell them the "right" answer

They can get quite angry, but its amusing.