Building my budget gaming PC

[kevior]

Hey Guys,

I'm building a budget gaming pc, my current pc looks like this:

Pentium D Processor @ 2.8GHz

2x 1GB Micron Tech Memory ' 266MHz

ECS Asterope3 Motherboard

Asus HD Radeon 6670

Corsair CX600 600W Power Supply

120GB HDD (i think its an old Seagate drive)

Some random Asus Heatsink

CiT Saturn Computer Case (DONT GET IT, ITS SHIT)

So yeah, i know what you're thinking, wow this is crap...

I'm replacing all of the old stuff in the pc, eg.

Pentium D Processor @ 2.8GHz

2x 1GB Micron Tech Memory ' 266MHz

ECS Asterope3 Motherboard

and then my new setup will look something like this

Intel Core i5 3750k

Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H (or maybe an MSi board of similar price range)

Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600MHz (2x4GB Kit)

Asus HD Radeon 6670

Corsair CX600 600W Power Supply

120GB HDD (i think its an old Seagate drive)

CiT Saturn Computer Case (DONT GET IT, ITS SHIT)

I may upgrade the case so i can fit a H100 into this bad boy and over clock it some to make it an ultimate budget gaming pc, and maybe upgrade the graphics card, so then its not so much of a budget pc. It's gunna total out at about £700 including the Case, Graphics card, and PSU that i bought earlier this year as a small addition. This pc is currently getting extremely bottlenecked by the CPU. I know for a fact that the Radeon 6670 can run Battlefield 3 at almost 30fps on decent quality but when i play Dirt 3 on ultra low graphics, I get about 18fps highest and about 13fps lowest which makes it very hard to play. Im sure this is down to bottlenecking.

Enough of my ranting,

if you have any suggestions for me i would love to hear them.

Thanks

Kev

 

[iLikeGreeeeen]

i might be blind, but you didnt seem mention an upgrade on the graphics card? are you planning to keep your 6670?

 

[Murphyslaw]

i might be blind, but you didnt seem mention an upgrade on the graphics card? are you planning to keep your 6670?

seems like he is.

how ever I would probably replace that before most things.

I may upgrade the case so i can fit a H100 into this bad boy and over clock it some to make it an ultimate budget gaming pc, and maybe upgrade the graphics card, so then its not so much of a budget pc. It's gunna total out at about £700 including the Case, Graphics card, and PSU that i bought earlier this year as a small addition. This pc is currently getting extremely bottlenecked by the CPU. I know for a fact that the Radeon 6670 can run Battlefield 3 at almost 30fps on decent quality but when i play Dirt 3 on ultra low graphics, I get about 18fps highest and about 13fps lowest which makes it very hard to play. Im sure this is down to bottlenecking.

Enough of my ranting,

if you have any suggestions for me i would love to hear them.

Thanks

Kev

pretty sure is it's your graphic cards max... as in the Frame Rate.

I would personally get a new graphic card over the CPU.

 

[Lauralarry]

im in the same situation as you check out my post, I have a Pentium D 3.4ghz/HD 4850 same as a 6670

 

[ZZAC]

good luck, certiantly allot more realistic than my first budget gaming build. 8 cores of xeon 8gb ram and hd4650. unfortunately akasa ak thermal paste fell in the socket about 2 weeks after being build and bricked the board! and not being able to pick up a skull trial board at the right price i sold the cpus and went amd

 

[AverageNinja]

Good luck mate

Btw, do you need a good place for your old rig?

 

[kevior]

seems like he is.

how ever I would probably replace that before most things.

pretty sure is it's your graphic cards max... as in the Frame Rate.

I would personally get a new graphic card over the CPU.

I'm almost 100% sure its a bottleneck with the CPU because my friend has an i5 2500k processor and the 6670 and he get way more (like 100fps more) in minecraft (a game). I'm planning on getting a GTX 670 when the price comes down.

 

[kevior]

Good luck mate

Btw, do you need a good place for your old rig?

What do you mean?

 

[kevior]

good luck, certiantly allot more realistic than my first budget gaming build. 8 cores of xeon 8gb ram and hd4650. unfortunately akasa ak thermal paste fell in the socket about 2 weeks after being build and bricked the board! and not being able to pick up a skull trial board at the right price i sold the cpus and went amd

can you not heat up the thermal paste again? if put in a coolish oven, maybe 60 degrees Celcius, upside down, it might drip off. (Put something underneath it so you dont ruin your oven

If this doesn't work and you motherboard melts... please dont hurt me ;(

 

[Murphyslaw]

I'm almost 100% sure its a bottleneck with the CPU because my friend has an i5 2500k processor and the 6670 and he get way more (like 100fps more) in minecraft (a game). I'm planning on getting a GTX 670 when the price comes down.

The main point you just said 'Minecraft' yes it will get high fps on minecraft.

How ever with what you said you wanted to play you will need a better graphic card.

as 30Fps isn't really that high. Remember the fact to play games most for the time the cpu plays a minor roll.

Like battlefield3 I know is very graphic hungry and any graphic card with 1GB or less memory struggles with it on very high.

I would even aim for something now if you can. even another of the same card if you have an extra pci-e slot

 

[kevior]

The main point you just said 'Minecraft' yes it will get high fps on minecraft.

How ever with what you said you wanted to play you will need a better graphic card.

as 30Fps isn't really that high. Remember the fact to play games most for the time the cpu plays a minor roll.

Like battlefield3 I know is very graphic hungry and any graphic card with 1GB or less memory struggles with it on very high.

I would even aim for something now if you can. even another of the same card if you have an extra pci-e slot

You say that but the CPU has to "process" everything and if its too slow for the speeds that the graphics are going then its no good, there is some more evidence that its my cpu, when I start recording my screen using fraps, my frame rate drops as the CPU is trying to record my screen and get the graphics in too.

 

[ZZAC]

can you not heat up the thermal paste again? if put in a coolish oven, maybe 60 degrees Celcius, upside down, it might drip off. (Put something underneath it so you dont ruin your oven

If this doesn't work and you motherboard melts... please dont hurt me ;(

i could have tried, it would have failed, Bear in mind this was early last year.... the rig lasted a week, before i noticed all the chip sets were hitting 60+ degrease, i ended up changing chip set heat sinks, and decided to remove one of the cpu heatsinks so i had more space. but yeah, bricked whole board, binned it, sold cpu's for a profit (brought board cpu's and ram for £60 not knowing how many cores these xeons were hiding due to a poor description on ebay!) But anyway got £225 for the xeons, and went down the amd route.

using mx2 now, was so pee'ed of about it, and i still am, these xeons even though being lga 771, would still outperform my i5, and i would have spent allot less, also as a rig it would have been allot more unique. due to the pure amount of systems i fix or rebuild i ended up buying a 65 gram tube of artic mx2 for around £20 , non conductive, very good tim, and should last me tll Christmas at this rate

 

[kevior]

i could have tried, it would have failed, Bear in mind this was early last year.... the rig lasted a week, before i noticed all the chip sets were hitting 60+ degrease, i ended up changing chip set heat sinks, and decided to remove one of the cpu heatsinks so i had more space. but yeah, bricked whole board, binned it, sold cpu's for a profit (brought board cpu's and ram for £60 not knowing how many cores these xeons were hiding due to a poor description on ebay!) But anyway got £225 for the xeons, and went down the amd route.

using mx2 now, was so pee'ed of about it, and i still am, these xeons even though being lga 771, would still outperform my i5, and i would have spent allot less, also as a rig it would have been allot more unique. due to the pure amount of systems i fix or rebuild i ended up buying a 65 gram tube of artic mx2 for around £20 , non conductive, very good tim, and should last me tll Christmas at this rate

Dayum, thats some bad luck

 

[wassupdoc]

I'm almost 100% sure its a bottleneck with the CPU because my friend has an i5 2500k processor and the 6670 and he get way more (like 100fps more) in minecraft (a game). I'm planning on getting a GTX 670 when the price comes down.

I get over 700fps on minecraft with my 670

 

[G-Dubs]

If you're convinced it's the CPU that's causing the bottle neck then replacing it is the route you must follow. That said, I wouldn't be too surprised if it was the GPU after all

Do you know anyone with a better GPU you gould borrow to check out the theory?

That way you'd know for sure before the spend.

All in all though, money spent on the mobo CPU is well spent. you could even save a bit and go 2500K, there's really not a lot in it performance wise in gaming.

Then in 6 months-year add in a new GPU and you've got a pretty decent rig

 

[kevior]

If you're convinced it's the CPU that's causing the bottle neck then replacing it is the route you must follow. That said, I wouldn't be too surprised if it was the GPU after all

Do you know anyone with a better GPU you gould borrow to check out the theory?

That way you'd know for sure before the spend.

All in all though, money spent on the mobo CPU is well spent. you could even save a bit and go 2500K, there's really not a lot in it performance wise in gaming.

Then in 6 months-year add in a new GPU and you've got a pretty decent rig

No, no friends with a spare GPU. I'm probably gunna stick with the 3750k because of its cooler temps and lower power, unless a 4th Gen Core processor comes out in the near future because knowing intel it'll be a large leap ahead of the 3rd Gen processors.

 

[kevior]

I get over 700fps on minecraft with my 670

Sweet, play any other games that you can tell me your normal fps rates on?

 

[wassupdoc]

Get about 100 on skyrim with TONS of graphics mods, and about 40-50 with boris' extreme series ENB. I get about 70 on crysis 2 dx11 with high res textures, and about 100 on MW3 all on native in 3D

oh and about 80 on sniper elite v2