Building a MAG

NoL

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I've decided on my crazy summer project, this is going to take a long time, and come in a ton of renditions until its a huge MAG.

I know PV your a science teacher, so maybe you'll point out flaws in what I'm doing and save me from electrocution here and there.

I'm working in autocad right now to draw up some preliminary plans, but for those who do NOT know what a MAG is...

A MAG is a magnetic accelerator gun,

...also known as, a Rail Gun. Its not a coil gun either. A coil gun pulls the shot out by Lorenz forces, a railgun uses Lorenz forces to launch the armature, as the armature is actually part of the circuit.

Here's a basic sketch of the physics behind it for you,

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Huge amounts of current flow down the rail, this by the right hand rule, sets up a clockwise magnet field. The current then flows across the armature, and down the other rail. This makes one rail an anode, and one a cathode. On the second rail, the current is coming back and by the right hand rule sets up a counterclockwise magnetic field. This creates a magnet field that stacks up, and does not cancel, resulting in a magnetic field upwards away from the rails, or downwards and away. By the laws of physics then, the current (I) flows across the armature, the magnetic field (B) is perpendicular to that, and the force on the armature (F) is perpendicular to that. This applies all over the rails as well. Therefore the rails are going to have just as much force on them, as the armature. So its going to have to be pretty f'ing sturdy!

Thats the basics, I'm going to start small, very very small, and move upwards to a huge multi-kilojoule MAG by the end of the summer.

----First MAG----

Transformer from 110VAC to 24VAC, diode bridge to produce 24VDC. *

Up to one HUNDRED 3800uF 35V capacitors (don't ask why I have this :P) *

Aluminum rails and armatures

Injection system for armature

Random crap I'm going to need to not get zapped

So I have my powersupply basically, and my capacitor bank for this small one. The calculation in the picture is for a 18,000 uF capacitor that I'm getting, well 2 of them. Each one at 250VDC will produce nearly 1.125KJ! I'm not going to use these yet, as it only takes around 16 joules to kill a person!

So for my small caps...

Energy = (.5) (Capacitance) (Voltage^2)

E = (.5) (.0038) (24^2)

E = 1.1 Joule

Yep, they're pretty small. Each capacitor I solder into parallel will add one joule to the system. Now thats not much, not much at all, so using these will most likely only allow me to launch pennys and such.

A very very rough calculation of what the boost in speed thru the railgun would be with lets say, 10 joules.

(kinetic energy) = (.5) (Mass) (Velocity ^ 2)

10 = .5 ( .00235 (mass of a penny!) ) V ^ 2

V = 92 m/s boost!

or

205 Miles per hour!

OR (for you brits)

329 Kilometers per hour!

And thats in addition to the injection speed. 10 Joules, thats all. But look at the math, when you use an incredibly light object (such as a penny), you wind up doubling the original kinetic energy due to the .5, then multiplying by a factor of 425!

So I'm going to look into (probably on ebay), buying some foot long peices of 1/4" square aluminum rod. This will make a very preliminary rail system. I'm thinking of trying some light metal marbles as well, but the need to keep contact with the rails might not be so great.

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MAJOR CONCERNS OF BUILDING A MAG.

Huge safety concern here guys, massive amounts of electricity released in tenths of a second. Easily one of the worst ways to die as well. Dont do this without alot of research and safety in your design. Its very easy to end up building a spot welder and or melting your entire railgun with one false fire. Also the rails themselves will vaporize with time due to the high amounts of current fired through them.

The armature has to be injected into the railgun, if it begins at rest, the forces will not break the static friction, and all the current will shoot thru a tiny localized spot on the rails. With two like materials, especially aluminum, they will spot weld and/or melt nearly instantly. With higher currents they may even turn to plasma.

Plasmalyzing of the armature may also occur, so don't fire it at your hand or pet. This should be sweet though, as apart from possibly rail damage, plasma is pretty ;)

The design also has to be very sturdy or your rails will shoot apart from a huge amount of force. I will conduct many test shots with just injection to make sure the round won't stick, as well as other concerns. Most likely I will use copper rails (no welding possiblities), or brass or a combination for the final rails. Graphite is possibly the best armature, but for now, aluminum should work. The best rails would actually be silver plated copper, but I'm not rich.

The final designs injection will most likely be from a large air compressor tank, or simply Co2 from my regulator so that I may test different shot pressures. I'm going to need to get a good solenoid either way as pressure release from right behind the armature will lead to the best results.

As for pressure...

Pressure = Force / Area

Re-arrange it for what I want:

Force = Pressure * Area

The more pressure I can get with a larger area, will lead to the most force. 100 PSI of Co2 thru a 1/4" square would be...

100 * .25 * .25 = 6.25 Newtons.

Force also equals mass * acceleration

Set those equal, and lets say that the penny was 1/4" square and retained the same mass...

6.25 = .00235 * A

Acceleration = 2700 m/s/s!!!

That acceleration will lead to a very high injection velocity provided I can maintain that pressure either all the way through (probably won't, might not end well), or even just few inch track right before the MAG.

So, let the insane summer project of 2k7 begin.

Hehehhe I'm cackling already. ;)
 
Sounds pretty mental to me and pretty dangerous so be careful

Pics while your going through will be helpful too :)

GL Man :D

And FYI "us brits" invented the Impirical system to we think in miles ;)
 
Haha okay Kemp, you win that one. As for this project, I'm ordering aluminum and such now for a small tiny model. I'm also going to start putting together some arrays of capacitors. Maybe 10 to a row, that way I can test at 10 joules, 20 joules, 30 joules for firing off pennys! Mwahahaha. The real trick is trying to get larger masses to accellerate though. Then I'm going to bump up into the bigger voltages. The voltages almost increase speed exponentially. 250 ^ 2 vs 24 ^ 2 is a large difference, alot more then simply 226 ;)

Once the pennys fly, I'm going to order either some armatures of copper, or maybe of aluminum. I'm going to get 4-8 rails of size .25" x .75" x 12" to start with, and incase some manage to spot weld themselves, I'll have more.

The next big problem occurs in getting much higher DC voltages. It must be DC. I think with a bridge rectifier I might be able to get 180VDC out of the local wall outlet! I'll need that to move up to bigger capacitors.
 
name='NoL' said:
It must be DC

lol no kidding, wouldnt want to load one from the back if it was AC haha.

what about a medium length plastic tube of the same footprint of the projectile (probably square?) leading into the end with a hole cut in the top and some elastic to give it a head start (as a loading method)
 
Yes thats a possible mounting system. I think the first few will just be spring loaded. I dont want to make a jump from sub 100 joules to 500+ joules though all of a sudden. So I'm looking for capacitors right now around 100V @ 5,000 uF on ebay.

The other concern is as my voltage increases, and some people use fairly huge voltages, you start getting electrical jumps. And electrical jumps in a rail gun would be powering an air bridge with a very high amount of electricity from capacitors. That'd be bad. I'm looking into some voltage doubler circuits as well.
 
Can`t remember half of this and we messed about with the laws in physics.

U can remind u`rself of the directions using u`r thumb, point finger and middle finger to act as the axies.
 
Haha its pretty basic in principle. The main thing with the capacitors though is. Either throwing 2 in parallel or throwing in series creates the same amount of power available. Twice as much. Parallel adds up the capacitance, and series adds up the voltage. But parallel doesnt effect the voltage, and series halves the capacitance when their's two. Thus they end up the same.

Its pretty hard to get high voltage DC though. I think the benefit to higher voltage is less chances of EMF back from the armature, and simply quicker recharge times. But getting hundreds of VDC is so hard. I think parallel is best for the moment. One joule a cap is still tiny though so I dont think I'll be firing much more then pennies at blinding speeds. :P
 
If I remember correctly we ended up with like a cork and a nail or washer of sorts.

Something about needing an insulator around the projectile - erm struggling now.

Did something about getting large PD from troughs and peaks of AC voltage.
 
Wha? The armature (projectile) needs to be conductive. Thats also why they become very hot and often shoot plasma behind the projectile.
 
With that much fiction, I can imagine.

I don`t think we`d`ve been allowed to have resulting plasma in our lab, bit protective of that sorta thing.

Using the magnetic field, our object would hover along if u like, I think u`r doing somthing different. Seems as tho alot of the power goes to waste, and if plasma can result - then it`s alot of waste thru heat.

Best of luck with containing the opposite forces on them rails, what u gonna constrain it with ?
 
Bolts, lots of bolts, and probably acetal or another hard plastic. As for plasma, it is not the result of heat, but instead massive arcing as the projectile enters and leaves the MAG. Sure there is heat/friction, but its very low, and needs to be, in this applicatin.

Just ordered six aluminum rails, .25" x .75" x 12". Guess I'm starting with a penny launcher and 10 joules, then up it to 20, then 30. Going to build a spring launcher and have these aluminum rails bolted to some spare acetal.
 
Hahah o when its done and I start test firing? I dont think I honestly have a camera that can record that fast. Maybe see the penny dont see the penny, but thats about it.
 
I'm still trying to figure out safety things, not very good at the "safe" stuff. I know i'm going to need some 1ohm resistors on all the capacitors if I want charge equalization. I'm wondering how I can discharge the caps though safely without firing a shot.
 
I'm gonna have to try one of these someday... I don't have the money, time, or space right now, but I find the idea quite appealing. Lots of pix pls :)
 
name='NoL' said:
Hahah o when its done and I start test firing? I dont think I honestly have a camera that can record that fast. Maybe see the penny dont see the penny, but thats about it.

Shoot it at like a piece of foam, then a piece of wood, and keep building up shooting into stronger and stronger materials and show the results :D
 
Woot awesome NoL! I'd be glad to help, I'm just in and out today with family/sport commitments but I'll try and get some stuff up for you this evening my time. Are you going to try setting up an auto-load feature too?
 
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