Broadwell E Xeon unlock multi?

[dabar_šolta]

never been on xeon before,does anyone have any information on unlocking broadwell e xeon multiplier? hardware or software mods?

or anything conected to lga2011-v3 pinout or schematics ,x99 design ,layout specs.

 

[Ady6UK]

I thought the multipliers are locked on Xeons. This link may give you some answers: http://www.cpu-world.com/Related_CPUs/Socket 2011-3_Broadwell.html
Only seems to show an unlocked multiplier on i7 6800K, 6850K, 6900K, 6950K CPU's. Not sure about any software/modified bios fixes though.

 

[Kilbane]

Xeon's are multiplier locked, the only thing you can do is to increase the base clock if your motherboard supports it.

 

[dabar_šolta]

yes multipliers are locked and i am willng to find out where is lock and try to bypass it either by hardware or software mod.

 

[Kilbane]

yes multipliers are locked and i am willng to find out where is lock and try to bypass it either by hardware or software mod.

Even if this was possible, why? Xeon's are designed to be low power, even if you could change the multiplier, the thermals and power requirements just won't be available to go any further than a base clock increase would give you without causing massive damage to the chip itself.

 

[SPS]

Guys he does ask how to unlock not if it is unlocked. Keep on topic please.

 

[dabar_šolta]

Even if this was possible, why? Xeon's are designed to be low power, even if you could change the multiplier, the thermals and power requirements just won't be available to go any further than a base clock increase would give you without causing massive damage to the chip itself.

isnt it point of overclocking increasing performance while not causing dmg,at least i figured that was the case.

i dont expect to overclock 2.6ghz xeon to 5ghz , but if stock turbo is at 3ghz i expect at least 3.5-3.7ghz if i figure out how to unlock multi .
cpu is rated 85W i have mobo rated 165W and cooling solution that is rated 300W. only problem is die size and thermal resistance whitch is unknown but i doubt that xeon has smaller cores than i7 cpus from same generation, they are same and i see people overclock i7 6800k while this xeon i ordered is lower only 4 core,i bet overclock would be easier on lower cores if it is possible at all in this case.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Pretty sure there are no mods. It's locked on the chip itself. You can't alter the chip.

 

[Wraith]

Pretty sure there are no mods. It's locked on the chip itself. You can't alter the chip.

Indeed, Xeons are just that.. if you want OC'ability then you'll have to have a K series. Unlike Phenoms and Athlons of old where by you could get specific motherboards which had altered BIOS or Core unlockers, Xeons are restricted at a hardware level and are not able to be manipulated via Multipliers. They are after all server/workstation CPUs not enthusiast chips.

 

[dabar_šolta]

Indeed, Xeons are just that.. if you want OC'ability then you'll have to have a K series. Unlike Phenoms and Athlons of old where by you could get specific motherboards which had altered BIOS or Core unlockers, Xeons are restricted at a hardware level and are not able to be manipulated via Multipliers. They are after all server/workstation CPUs not enthusiast chips.

i know that they are blocked and i am interested in fiddling around to find exactly how they are restricted and remove/bypass that block somehow. i am no stranger to soldering smd devices so i have no problem with fiddling around hardware, just for starters i cant even find chip pinout nowhere .

Pretty sure there are no mods. It's locked on the chip itself. You can't alter the chip.

i know there are no mods , i want to make one if it is possible but i need lots of info before i can do anything.

 

[NeverBackDown]

i know that they are blocked and i am interested in fiddling around to find exactly how they are restricted and remove/bypass that block somehow. i am no stranger to soldering smd devices so i have no problem with fiddling around hardware, just for starters i cant even find chip pinout nowhere .



i know there are no mods , i want to make one if it is possible but i need lots of info before i can do anything.

Like we already said. It is not possible. So no point in even trying. Stick with a i series CPU. If you don't want a k chip and want to make your life hard. Get a non k chip and search the internet for a multiplier unlocker bios. Then you'll have full control over the chip.

 

[Wraith]

i know that they are blocked and i am interested in fiddling around to find exactly how they are restricted and remove/bypass that block somehow. i am no stranger to soldering smd devices so i have no problem with fiddling around hardware, just for starters i cant even find chip pinout nowhere .

You won't find pin outs for Intel CPUs those are closely guarded secrets, you'll just have to accept it and stick to BCK and Voltage changes.

 

[tinytomlogan]

Pretty sure its a hardlock.

If it was mod-able it would have already been done.

 

[dabar_šolta]

Like we already said. It is not possible. So no point in even trying. Stick with a i series CPU. If you don't want a k chip and want to make your life hard. Get a non k chip and search the internet for a multiplier unlocker bios. Then you'll have full control over the chip.

ok could you please provide me technical details that say why is not possible?yes my point is trying ,so why discourage?i dont care if i fail i will try even if i fry my chip.
not trying to make it user friendly and i dont have problem if i need to make custom parts for it to work.

 

[NeverBackDown]

ok could you please provide me technical details that say why is not possible?yes my point is trying ,so why discourage?i dont care if i fail i will try even if i fry my chip.
not trying to make it user friendly and i dont have problem if i need to make custom parts for it to work.

Seriously? Do you read anything we post?

Intel DOES NOT allow it. You CANNOT change that. All the solder skill, all the coding skill, in the world won't change it. I do not need further proof. Intel simply does not allow it. Hardware mods or Software mods, there is no way to do it. Proof is that. Intel don't allow it for reasons beyond anyone outside there engineering team know.
You already failed, please, don't make this like the other thread and just ask for a bajillion graphs. I already gave an alternative course of action that would be fun. If that is not encouraging enough, sorry.

Accepts the facts please. Try my suggested idea instead.

 

[dabar_šolta]

what is known is that only dual or more socket xeon parts are locked becouse that guarantees stability. i didnt buy single socket xeon but i will use it only in single socket so i have no worries for stability thus dont care about that lock.

so cant understand what seems to be problem and why you seem angry its not like i will destroy your cpu. i dont ask for "bajilion" graphs(but it would be nice if there are some) i ask for information from truthful source that explains how exactly lock on multi is implemented.

i know that its not posible and intel doesnt want that,but i dont care about what intel wants and want to see how possible it is.btw i have very low coding skill but this is supposed to be hardware lock.

bclk oc by itself is nice for fine tuning but for large differences may produce unwanted problems with pcie devices.

 

[SPS]

what is known is that only dual or more socket xeon parts are locked becouse that guarantees stability. i didnt buy single socket xeon but i will use it only in single socket so i have no worries for stability thus dont care about that lock.

so cant understand what seems to be problem and why you seem angry its not like i will destroy your cpu. i dont ask for "bajilion" graphs(but it would be nice if there are some) i ask for information from truthful source that explains how exactly lock on multi is implemented.

i know that its not posible and intel doesnt want that,but i dont care about what intel wants and want to see how possible it is.btw i have very low coding skill but this is supposed to be hardware lock.

bclk oc by itself is nice for fine tuning but for large differences may produce unwanted problems with pcie devices.

I doubt many if any people on here have that low level of knowledge required to truly understand how Intel CPUs are locked. You might have better luck on http://electronics.stackexchange.com/

 

[Kaapstad]

what is known is that only dual or more socket xeon parts are locked becouse that guarantees stability. i didnt buy single socket xeon but i will use it only in single socket so i have no worries for stability thus dont care about that lock.

so cant understand what seems to be problem and why you seem angry its not like i will destroy your cpu. i dont ask for "bajilion" graphs(but it would be nice if there are some) i ask for information from truthful source that explains how exactly lock on multi is implemented.

i know that its not posible and intel doesnt want that,but i dont care about what intel wants and want to see how possible it is.btw i have very low coding skill but this is supposed to be hardware lock.

bclk oc by itself is nice for fine tuning but for large differences may produce unwanted problems with pcie devices.

If it could be done the LN2 benchers would have done it. They also have the technical knowledge as some of them have access to intel directly.

Just buy yourself a 6950X and do some overclocking on that.

 

[AlienALX]

Every Xeon I have used over the past few years have been locked. X58, X79 etc. They are not designed for overclocking.

Depending on your board (IE not a Gigabyte like mine that black screens if you use a 101 BCLK) you may get some out of the BCLK. I have seen the same CPU I have running a 113 bus on a RIVE, though that was one of if not the best X79 boards.

Generally though you will be locked, though you can clock the CPU to full turbo all of the time and run all cores at the full turbo speed.

I have heard a few people saying they have unlocked Xeons but none have ever proven it, funny that.