AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Ryzen 9 3900X X470 vs X570 Review

Sick. The 3900x performance metrics are mind boggling.

Seriously, that's an irresponsible amount of multi core performance.

Rock on. Thanks for the hard work guys. I know what my next CPU is going to be :D
 
Fantastic performance and it's brilliant to see the 3900X is literally nipping at the heels of the 9900K in gaming, I don't need 16 cores of the 3950X coming in September but the 12 core model is calling my name and I'm doubly happy as the performance difference is negligible between X470/570, Ace review Tom, Appreciate the hard work !


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Yeah for sure I think the star of the show is the 3900x. Not to do disservice to the rest but man, what a beast. Over 7000cb. Wow. J.Ju....Just mad.
 
Thanks so much for all the effort. It's been great going through all the reviews.

I think I might skip X570 and just get an X470 motherboard.
 
@TTL, firstly can I state that you're an absolute F'ing Legend for putting in the effort to test both CPU's on the X470 CHVII and X570 CHVIII!!!

My initial purchase option was going to be the CHVIII/3700X combo, however owing to your hard work (ongoing and that of the rest of the team) I chose to keep my CHVII and drop on a 3900X instead - coupled with my existing CL16 3600 G Skill memory kit and FE 2080 I feel I'll be in a pretty good place (until the reviews are in proper on the X570 boards and I can make an informed decision on which to buy at a later date).

A HUGE thank you once again.
 
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Another cracking review as per usual.

These CPU's are amazing for what I would want to use one for, which would be rendering using Sony Vegas 15, and then swapping out my 7700k for my gaming machine, both machines would be spec'd the same.

I have already priced up from Scan 2x all:

3900x
32Gb 3200Mhz
MSI MPG Gaming Edge x570
Corsair H150i

I would also need to get 8x EK Vardar 1850rpm fans as I have 4 already, and it came out to around the £2150, which as much as I would like to pull the trigger on it, I don't have it at the moment.
 
First off, Thanks for a great review Tom, much appreciated.

The NVMe results were especially interesting on the Hero Vii - (wondering if AMD / Asus have allowed PCIe 4.0 to run from the CPU on the Crosshair Vii at least).

Memory writes are nothing to write home about on the single chiplet 3700X and my 2700X on a CH H Vii gives them a good smacking even at 3200 (albeit at C14 :)) so you've made me buy a dual chiplet 3900X :p
 
@TTL, top reviews matey :) Also, defo impressed that your testing x470 alongside x570 :) :)
Lets just hope the binning on the 3950x gets us to at least 4.5ghz !!
 
Really great review. I was a bit concerned if memory speeds would be seriously affected by the X470 boards, but seems all good for reasonable levels.

Considering I'm looking at the more budget friendly 3600x, I think a nice x470 board might be the perfect pairing.
 
Thanks Very Much to the OC3D team for awesome reviews of these products and what you found out about the SSD's is stunning!!!
 
While impressive gains and amazing 'content' scores are had, I feel the gaming scores are quickly overlooked in the conclusion. For us that are not hardcore content creators, just about any CPU does the job expect for gaming. This is really the only place where we benefit from something special.



Looking at the 9900K and the 3900X, we have similar costs but Intel still comes out on top.


For the gaming benchmark, setting 3900x FPS performance at 100%, Intel scores (non-OC values, since Intel OC results are not included) ;
110,2%
106,1%
107,9%
121,3%


For an average of 111,4% or 11,4% more FPS than AMD.
This from a CPU that is 3/4 of a year old.
I assume the difference will be less with higher resolutions, so too bad 1440p is not included.



Again, awesome gains. And power/heat is just a lost battle for Intel - but if you want the best gaming rig - or just most FPS for your $500 then Intel is still the way to go as far as I can see. Speculating that more cores will be handy down the line is still just that, speculation.
 
While impressive gains and amazing 'content' scores are had, I feel the gaming scores are quickly overlooked in the conclusion. For us that are not hardcore content creators, just about any CPU does the job expect for gaming. This is really the only place where we benefit from something special.



Looking at the 9900K and the 3900X, we have similar costs but Intel still comes out on top.


For the gaming benchmark, setting 3900x FPS performance at 100%, Intel scores (non-OC values, since Intel OC results are not included) ;
110,2%
106,1%
107,9%
121,3%


For an average of 111,4% or 11,4% more FPS than AMD.
This from a CPU that is 3/4 of a year old.
I assume the difference will be less with higher resolutions, so too bad 1440p is not included.



Again, awesome gains. And power/heat is just a lost battle for Intel - but if you want the best gaming rig - or just most FPS for your $500 then Intel is still the way to go as far as I can see. Speculating that more cores will be handy down the line is still just that, speculation.

All of these game were chosen specifically because they were CPU limited, and showcased good scaling with core counts and single-threaded performance or highlighted shortcomings with older Ryzen processors.

Basically, we didn't want to test any games which would showcase no differences between these CPUs.
 
This review and a fair few others shows the OC'd 3700X as very slightly faster than the OC'd 3900X for pure gaming across most titles, while indeed those reviews that show 4K and 1440p gaming or more GPU bound titles often show parity with the Intel parts there. So personally I think you'd conclude for a pure gaming system, your best option would be to buy a 3700X and spend the money you save on a beefier GPU, as these gains would significantly outdo the 1-8% gains of the Intel 8-core over the AMD 8-core in rare heavily CPU bound instances as the CPU still has a high enough throughput to avoid bottlenecking any modern top end GPU and this would deliver large gains in essentially every instance.
 
All of these game were chosen specifically because they were CPU limited, and showcased good scaling with core counts and single-threaded performance or highlighted shortcomings with older Ryzen processors.

Basically, we didn't want to test any games which would showcase no differences between these CPUs.


And that makes perfect sense. Thanks for replying and also thanks for an awesome review.



@tgrech You suggestion "only" makes sense with a limited budget. Most have that limitation obviously, however many are also able to get the best consumer product (or used to, until 20xx series) for CPU and GPU. In those cases, it would be best to stick with Intel (and, unfortunately, Nvidia).


It was the same case back when I build my 6700K / 1080ti system - I could have gotten more bang for the buck - or "good" performance for less - but there is something to be said about a system with top components :-)
 
And that makes perfect sense. Thanks for replying and also thanks for an awesome review.

All thanks should go to Tom. He did all the work. I just game him some game suggestions.
 
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loved the review and a big thanks to TTL and the team cause there was sure a lot of work done in the background .
It all looks promising for AMD in the present/near future and long may they keep poking Intel in the side .

as for me i'm staying Intel as there is no point for my uses upgrading/changing platforms anytime soon
 
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