AMD Predicted to go Bankrupt by 2020

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Thus would be terrible news for the PC community in general. Nvidia and Intel need some sort of competition in their respective fields in order to keep pushing and giving the customer (us) the best possible performance and value for money, which if there was a massive monopoly in the market would not happen.
 
Its sad but certainly the writing has been on the wall for them for a long time. Anyone remember a time when you went to radio shack for a pc but they have been the walking dead for a long time. I love radio shack just like I love intel having competition but frankly AMD has not been anywhere near competitive with intel for many years now. You can make arguments for chipset, server, entry level cpu, video card products being somewhat almost competitive but not really.

I would like to see a bankruptcy of amd followed by a restructuring with a massive infusion of cash, talent and RnD. We need competition! Just look at how stagnant innovation has been every generation after sandy. I get the power improvements are significant as are the onboard graphics impro.....
yawn...
Sorry fell asleep writing that last sentence because those improvements were so #$$%^& boring.
Mantle .....one of their few competitive ideas, sparked huge changes and got a fire lit under dx12 development. With AMD serving as little more than intel's strawman I wonder if they do more harm then good. If they actually fail perhaps they can make way for a new viable competitor to intel. Hmmm maybe google should think about getting into the foundry business.
 
Ouch - just saw AMDs stock price and there's sadly a good chance they could be gone way before 2020. Someone needs to buy them out asap.
 
Jimbo1234 said:
Ouch - just saw AMDs stock price and there's sadly a good chance they could be gone way before 2020. Someone needs to buy them out asap.
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Samsung offered late last year and they declined.. all will be right in the end when they sweep in at the last moment and grab a bargain business before it fails completely.
 
Wraithguard said:
Samsung offered late last year and they declined.. all will be right in the end when they sweep in at the last moment and grab a bargain business before it fails completely.
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Dang, I didn't realise actual offers had been made. AMD were silly to pass on that and I can now imagine that someone might just buy AMD (hostile or willing) out if their share price goes any lower.
 
Jimbo1234 said:
Dang, I didn't realise actual offers had been made. AMD were silly to pass on that and I can now imagine that someone might just buy AMD (hostile or willing) out if their share price goes any lower.
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Those stocks prices have been that way for years. They didn't just drop. Even before they crashed it was only around 4.0 back in 2009/10 iirc.
 
Is it too late for AMD to join the Eurozone?

Seriously tho I hope they stay. Competition is good.

I feel a bit of a hypocrite typing this on an intel laptop and owning an intel/nvidia games rig but unless we start buying AMD and accepting the relatively small performance or heat penalties then there's not a lot of hope apart from a buyout and re-brand from the likes of Samsung.

Just my two cents. Corporate economics and finance is like voodoo to me.
 
Looks like my post got deleted for some weird reason, Little childish.

But yeah I really hope they don't go bankrupt, If AMD go under Intel and Nvidia will be able to charge whatever they want, Not good for the consumer.
 
Dice Hunter said:
Looks like my post got deleted for some weird reason, Little childish.

But yeah I really hope they don't go bankrupt, If AMD go under Intel and Nvidia will be able to charge whatever they want, Not good for the consumer.
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This is true

It will be a sad day when this happens we need AMD to stick around to keep the pricing fairer.
 
samsung may be a good buyer, but so would sony id imagine if they are interested in that sort of thing.
I wouldnt want MS to buy them as i have mentioned before, and apple is just as bad.
I cant really think of any other companys that would probably have the money and try to innovate.
sony would innovate due to consoles although may bog down in propriatary bull. but atleast they could make cross platform stuff.
samsung im not sure what they would do in terms of pc tech, and id be a bit worried that it would all go in to phone tech.
 
What you want is some one that can talk crap and market products as well as Nvidia do. Then we'd have a proper fight on our hands.

I'd rather Microsoft bought them if I'm honest. We may see some sort of unification with the Xbox then (because let's face it its had its ass handed to it by the PS4) and DX12.

That would hit Nvidia where it hurts. AMD to get exclusive DX12 stuff.
 
I dont think the government will let them go bankrupt.

In order to keep a competitive economy during financial crisis in 2008, the gov. bailed out GMC, Ford and one other american firm. It was to prevent massive job losses and also monopoly of the industry from the other manufacturers.

I am sure the same would apply to AMD. Think of the disastrous knock on effect it would have to PC, business and consumer, console, mobile, hospitals (using server GPU), and probably some car technology is using AMD.
 
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What you want is some one that can talk crap and market products as well as Nvidia do. Then we'd have a proper fight on our hands.

I'd rather Microsoft bought them if I'm honest. We may see some sort of unification with the Xbox then (because let's face it its had its ass handed to it by the PS4) and DX12.

That would hit Nvidia where it hurts. AMD to get exclusive DX12 stuff.
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Even if MS did buy AMD, the courts would have a field day if they then favoured AMD cards due to monopoly rights which MS don't want to deal with again.
All AMD need is someone with the capital to fund them through this stage and get a CEO who a) doesn't leave the job for 5+ years b) has a clear vision. I would think the main reason AMD are doing so badly is the constant changing and chopping of plans which costs an absolute fortune. The cancelling of 20nm fab shows the worst type of engineering management possible (as in changing/canceling a project midway).


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I dont think the government will let them go bankrupt.

In order to keep a competitive economy during financial crisis in 2008, the gov. bailed out GMC, Ford and one other american firm. It was to prevent massive job losses and also monopoly of the industry from the other manufacturers.

I am sure the same would apply to AMD. Think of the disastrous knock on effect it would have to PC, business and consumer, console, mobile, hospitals (using server GPU), and probably some car technology is using AMD.
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However as they are floated and not too huge, someone could buy them out if they go under and have a nice company with no debt. The only hope would be that such a buyer would actually improve the company and not use it to dump debt onto or just dissolve it.
 
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Even if MS did buy AMD, the courts would have a field day if they then favoured AMD cards due to monopoly rights which MS don't want to deal with again.
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Erm don't think so ! Physx and G-Sync are exclusive to Nvidia and I don't see them in court. Mantle is AMD only, don't see a problem there either.

So if Microsoft made certain DX12 features AMD only down to hardware there's bugger all they could do.
 
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Erm don't think so ! Physx and G-Sync are exclusive to Nvidia and I don't see them in court. Mantle is AMD only, don't see a problem there either.

So if Microsoft made certain DX12 features AMD only down to hardware there's bugger all they could do.
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That's quite a different scenario though.

Physx was originally done by a company called AGEIA and was VERY small, Nvidia bought them out as we know and Physx is featured in a tiny amount of games.

AMD have their own version of G-Sync that works exactly the same way so that isn't a point of contention either.

DX12 which is a HUGE feature and the basis of every future game that both AMD and Nvidia are both going to use and if suddenly only parts of the actual API worked with AMD hardware, Well that would result in a long drawn out court case which no body wants and would tarnish Microsoft's rep.

By all means have exclusive features like Physx for Nvidia, TressFX for AMD etc... but when parts of the actual API are made to run better or only on specific hardware that's when things can get slippery.
 
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