A64 4000+ / FX55, good overclockers?

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The first test I read about those two seems to indicate that you can get really poor o/c on air. Obviously, AMD, just like Intel, seems to hit a technological wall with their latest babies. But I am wondering if it would be possible to get something nicer with a prommy/vapo, considering how ridiculously expensive those CPUs are. Anyone tried/saw something already about that?

Cheers.
 
BaD CrC said:
The first test I read about those two seems to indicate that you can get really poor o/c on air. Obviously, AMD, just like Intel, seems to hit a technological wall with their latest babies. But I am wondering if it would be possible to get something nicer with a prommy/vapo, considering how ridiculously expensive those CPUs are. Anyone tried/saw something already about that?

Cheers.
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ppl are gettin 2.85 on air on the fx55, 28secs super pi 1m ....... u call that a poor overclock?? :rolleyes:
 
Here is my overclock with my new baby:

Athlon FX55

2x512 Adata DDr566

K8N Neo2

24/24 rock stable:

CPUmark4011.jpg
 
yeah thats what I was thinking! why hasn't he entered his results on the 3dmark thread! priorities pinto, priorities!
 
VERY nice score there!!! Shigsy mate, that's gonna take some beating on air alone :p.

I think Pinto is in a league of his own until we start to see more of the new procs coming into use on here. How does everyone keep affording new ones??? I just got the 3.4EE and already wishing I had taken Daz up on the offer of swapping back for the 939 FX53 :mad:. DAMN IT!!!!!

This thing is pretty quick tho so I'm not whining but anyone who feels like swapping a 3.4EE P4 for a 939 FX53 or the 939 3500 Winchester gimme a shout plz.

Cheers

Boardy
 
Guys,

Looks like FX-55 is the one to have, perhaps when the next batch of FX53's come out they will be made on the same die as FX55, the stepping rule will apply and there will be one awesome stepping that you need in FX53 to get FX55 performance.

For MachII users this could mean getting the same overclock with a lower cost chip (or at least as close as it not to make a difference).

I still play around video encoding so I still fit in the P4 camp at present, although it would be great to score so high in 3dmark (01 and 05) and one guys got sub 25mins in 32m superpi test using FX53 @ 2.985Ghz.

I know the comp is a farce - but I would be interested to see how the gap has closed on video and MP3 encoding - would you take the 'beat the office' test at custompc.co.uk and post the results?

Let me know your scores - I may still change back to AMD yet (probably Athlon 64 4000 tho as FX's are not cheap.

Got my 3.4 prescott running stable and 4.5Ghz (268 FSB) which is a happy 1000 3dm01se marks off what I scored with my 3.2ee @ 4.1Ghz - Superpi 32m completed in 5mins 3secs - overall it performs better than the extreme and costs a mere £200 (NEW) compared to £621 - bang per buck is exceptional.

The only other thing that stops me changing to AMD64 is that Intel have announced that dual core P4's will be LGA775 (Prommie CPU kits imminent) AMD have yet to announce what they will use. It is unclear if DUAL CORE AMD 64 CPU's are to stay with 939, rumours suggest porting over to LGA775 or introduce a new socket series (which means new CPU kit required for the Prommies = long wait).

I have invested loads recently (recovered quite a bit auctioning off the leftovers) - my next investment needs to last a little longer this time round - funds are limited and my missus is doing her fruit!!
 
maverik-sg1 said:
Guys,

Looks like FX-55 is the one to have, perhaps when the next batch of FX53's come out they will be made on the same die as FX55, the stepping rule will apply and there will be one awesome stepping that you need in FX53 to get FX55 performance.
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amd no longer make the fx53, they ave now basically rebaged it as the amd64 4000+ which only has a downwards multi from 12x
 
So will the AMD64 4000+ be pressed from the same fab as the FX55? If so could it be possible to pump up the FSB to get a great overclock?
 
Is it just me or does it seem completely pointless buying the FX chips? If they just rebadge em and lock down the multis to not go above BUT go below a certain range, why not wait and get the cheaper chip???

I don't understand AMD's logic in this!! The FX's are supposed to be expensive for a reason, there the best. If they bring out another one and then re-badge the old one and sell it for cheaper, whats the point in that??

What a stupid thing to do on AMD's part in my opinion.

(I havn't slept much over the last few days and felt like venting some of my anger and annoyance at the IT industry lol, sorry :o)

Cheers

Boardy
 
Boardy,

It's a good point well made. the marketing bods at AMD will no doubt apply their spin to make it sound a lot better than it actauly is.

I have learned that the gains of overclocking a £600 CPU over one that cost a third or sometimes two thirds less than the 'best' is not worth the extra dosh. The Extrem Edition P4 is a good example of that.

Of course at stock they are the best and by a long way - but where's the fun in that?

Sometimes it's easy to lose sight of the fun that overclocking and modding bring. I am not saying that these babies do not perform, far from it, but when fully overclocked/modded lesser chips really close the gap to a point where you have to ask where to invest your money.

IMHO Prommies, providing the CPU kits keep up with the latest releases are the best long term investment as you get the opportunity to buy mid-range and overclock beyond the speed of the latest offerings and not that far off their best overclock either.

Your first system costs a lot (about £100 more than the latest CPU) as you are laying out £550 for the cooler and around £200 for a decent speed (but great for overclocking CPU), after that it's save, save, save. You only have to invest in a £200 (less if you go P4 or buy off ebay) CPU next time round to keep up with the £600 CPU's

I hope that these winchester 3500+ really are the 2500 bartons of 2005 and that they overclock a treat when supercooled - Of course FX53 (or A64 4000+) should (if made from the same fab as FX55) perform really well too in the near future.

I guess it justs cements the fact that you dont have to have the latest and greatest to be the best - if you have a trusty Prometeia 2 by your side.
 
boardy said:
Is it just me or does it seem completely pointless buying the FX chips? If they just rebadge em and lock down the multis to not go above BUT go below a certain range, why not wait and get the cheaper chip???

I don't understand AMD's logic in this!! The FX's are supposed to be expensive for a reason, there the best. If they bring out another one and then re-badge the old one and sell it for cheaper, whats the point in that??

What a stupid thing to do on AMD's part in my opinion.

(I havn't slept much over the last few days and felt like venting some of my anger and annoyance at the IT industry lol, sorry :o)

Cheers

Boardy
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Or very clever.... think of the mass market......#

intel atm = ".... lets drop the ghz rateing in future so people know which processor to buy"

amd atm = "... lets rebrand everything above 4ghz with a ghz rateing so everyone thinks we have faster chips...."
 
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