7970 tri fire results! And now quad fire!

I saw this earlier and I wet my pants a little
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They are getting a fourth one in for quad fire soon as well
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You would expect a ghood result with 3x Cards but thats alil better than expected
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Im skint so ill stick with my 5970 for now
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Kelper Smelper - that's six months away, this is now.
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That's why it's being announced in February, then.

You think they're going to let AMD have a 6 month cakewalk? really?

Yeah amazing performance...wonder what kepler will bring to the table

More fantastic awesome super duper benchmark results?

Cos from where I'm sitting none of these new cards can do what the ones we have now can't. They just do it faster. Sadly the cards we have are already proven to be fast enough for any game on the market. And there's no Crysis 3 coming, no Battlefield 4 etc so they're all completely pointless*

*unless you game on three screens, or, have a stupidly large monitor.

But that's just it really. Now AMD and Nvidia are trying to brain wash us to make us believe that we need to throw away our 24" 1080p monitors and go and buy a 27" one.

When any one with any brains will realise that a good 32" TV costs less, and has a 1080p HDMI port.

BRILLZIANT !
 
That's why it's being announced in February, then.

They are being announced in Feb but they are starting with the low end cards, the high end cards aren't coming until Q2 maybe later.

More fantastic awesome super duper benchmark results?

Well yeah, some epic benchmarks. It's not all about being able to run games, some people are interested in new technology and seeing how far it can be pushed and how much performance gains can be had over the previous generation.

Cos from where I'm sitting none of these new cards can do what the ones we have now can't. They just do it faster. Sadly the cards we have are already proven to be fast enough for any game on the market. And there's no Crysis 3 coming, no Battlefield 4 etc so they're all completely pointless*

*unless you game on three screens, or, have a stupidly large monitor.

Well the ones we have now can't give the performance that the new ones can, especially from a overclocked 7970 which is closing in on a 590 performance wise and considering the 7970 is a single GPU card that is pretty damn amazing, considering that it also does it using a hell of a lot less power and runs a hell of a lot cooler.

Not everyone who is upgrading their GPU are upgrading from a 580 and for someone going from a low end or mid range card the jump in performance is massive. Yeah, a lot of games are console ports but even the console ports get more and more demanding and to keep up you want to buy a high end card to give as much life out of it as possible as well as being able to add another and doubling the life span.

The scaling from these cards are improved massively as well they scale at almost 100% which is another thing older cards can't do which makes crossfire and SLI even more worth while.

And as I said before this is also with a much lower power draw and GPU temps.

Saying these cards don't do anything current ones don't is wrong, they offer a lot more, you may not need it but if you are buying new or upgrading from a older or lower end card then there is no reason not to upgrade to one of these cards.

But that's just it really. Now AMD and Nvidia are trying to brain wash us to make us believe that we need to throw away our 24" 1080p monitors and go and buy a 27" one.

When any one with any brains will realise that a good 32" TV costs less, and has a 1080p HDMI port.

BRILLZIANT !

How are they trying to brainwash you?

They are not forcing you to go and buy a triple screen set up they are just making it so you are able to run one if you do, that is also another advancement, being able to game at a higher resolution with a decent level of performance, better than the cards that are around today.

I went from gaming on a 24" monitor to a 47" TV and I can honestly say i'm never going back to a 24" screen again, the bigger the screen you can get for gaming the better imo and if going triple screen is what you want to do then these new cards are the ones you want to be buying.

It's not always as black and white as you don't need it so why get it. Advancements in technology are constantly happening and these new cards are a part of that advancement, if the 7970 is anything to go by then I look forward to seeing what else comes of it.
 
vr-zone said they'll be doing some folding at home results soon . I did something else in my pants(core OC to 1100MHz and 1500MHz OC on the memory and those results - holy crap) .
 
wow sieb you must sit really far back from your screen mate as the ppi on a 47" 1080 screen must be low.

i know what your saying tho, i am waiting for my 28" 1200 screen to come back from rma and it is killing me using a smaller square screen.
 
wow sieb you must sit really far back from your screen mate as the ppi on a 47" 1080 screen must be low.

i know what your saying tho, i am waiting for my 28" 1200 screen to come back from rma and it is killing me using a smaller square screen.

I have my PC in my living room hooked up to my TV, I sit about 2 meters away from it, any further and the 3D doesn't work.
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If you have your PC at a desk then a 28" screen is big enough and a larger screen would pointless unless you are able to sit far enough back from it but having three decent sized monitors setup beside each other for eyefinity would be the better.
 
They are being announced in Feb but they are starting with the low end cards, the high end cards aren't coming until Q2 maybe later.

And we all know that they can't afford to do that. Quite simply if they do they'll be in trouble again, and I'm not so sure they can afford to be in trouble again so soon after the Fermi problems.

Well yeah, some epic benchmarks. It's not all about being able to run games, some people are interested in new technology and seeing how far it can be pushed and how much performance gains can be had over the previous generation.

There is nothing to be excited about over the gains over existing hardware. The problem of course is the word "existing". They are using existing software and existing games. Some of these games are five years old. That's called reaching, not demonstrating. The previous generation had DX11. It was, technically, no different to DX10 but at least it sounded new and fresh. Sadly it was a flop, but hey, at least it was something to sort of be excited about as it was supposed to leave existing technology, software and games, in the dark. It didn't, but hey, at least it had a big mouth and managed to shout loudly enough to make us sit up and pay attention.

Well the ones we have now can't give the performance that the new ones can, especially from a overclocked 7970 which is closing in on a 590 performance wise and considering the 7970 is a single GPU card that is pretty damn amazing, considering that it also does it using a hell of a lot less power and runs a hell of a lot cooler.

Not everyone who is upgrading their GPU are upgrading from a 580 and for someone going from a low end or mid range card the jump in performance is massive. Yeah, a lot of games are console ports but even the console ports get more and more demanding and to keep up you want to buy a high end card to give as much life out of it as possible as well as being able to add another and doubling the life span.

So the 7970 almost goes as fast as a 590. A card we have had the opportunity of owning for nearly a year. I still fail to see what is exciting about that, given that hardly any one needed a 590 in the first place. They are trying to replace a card that wasn't exactly main stream in the first place.

And the jump in performance may well be massive, but there's no getting away from the fact that that performance is in software we already have and could already use to the fullest. Faster does not add function. Function wise apart from a few pointless ones these cards have nothing to offer at all.

I mean s**t, they could have at least talked to M$ and talked them into releasing another stupid pointless API to woo us with.

The scaling from these cards are improved massively as well they scale at almost 100% which is another thing older cards can't do which makes crossfire and SLI even more worth while.

And as I said before this is also with a much lower power draw and GPU temps.

Okay I was going to cover that logic in my recent bloq-esque post, but I shall cover it now.

1. Scaling refers to multiple GPUs. Multiple GPUs rely on software and drivers that only partially exist, so will never be truly worth having or a standard. As long as a computer with one graphics card in it exists multiple GPUs can never become a tried and tested standard that software companies will feel like supporting. Meaning again, you are the minority and thus you deserve every stutter ridden frame displayed to you. Buying a multiple GPU set up is pretty bloody stupid.

As for power draw? Allow me to demonstrate the flaw in that logic. You see, when I bought my 42" plasma TV for £400 a 42" LCD was £600. I went to a store (even though I intended to order it online) and the salesman there tried to convince me that the LCD screen uses less power. I already knew this, and, because I'm not stupid I had decided to research it. I found that for the LCD TV to make up the price difference it would take six years . And by that time I would have no doubt replaced it with a bigger one or something. Either way it was not worth the hype nor the investment.

Your logic negates to mention that people who fall for such sales patters will replace the card long before it could pay for itself in a electrical usage sense. Heat? as long as the card doesn't fail it's fine. People are willing to put up with it (as they haven't had much of a choice in the past when hot was in).

Saying these cards don't do anything current ones don't is wrong, they offer a lot more, you may not need it but if you are buying new or upgrading from a older or lower end card then there is no reason not to upgrade to one of these cards.

These cards do nothing that the ones we have can not do. It is as simple as that. A GTX 590 is more than capable of 1600p gaming with more than acceptable frame rates, so the 7970 offers nothing more. The GTX 590 can run three screens in surround AND do 3dvision, CUDA and Physx. So actually the 7970 on a technical level can do less.

These new cards do not allow you to do anything you can not do with a card or a computer that already exists. Those are facts.

How are they trying to brainwash you?

Because that is what a salesman does. He will bend the truth and try and convince you that you need this new product, even though it may well be completely pointless.

For a quick example, BT. I decided (as my final straw snapped) to get rid of BT and replace it with Talk Talk. Many reasons, but to sum up Talk Talk were LLU so my internet is three times faster. Not only that, but over all the entire package costs me half of what the BT one did. BT could not offer more than 6m with a download limit of 100gb a month. This is because they use 50 year old lines. Not only that but they over sold the broadband in my area.

So today when they phoned and tried to convince me that what I had put up with before was better than what I had now, at double the price, was just hilarious. In the end I simply said "If you are so wonderful why is it that you offer half of what I have now for twice the money?".

They are not forcing you to go and buy a triple screen set up they are just making it so you are able to run one if you do, that is also another advancement, being able to game at a higher resolution with a decent level of performance, better than the cards that are around today.

Hoping people will rush out and buy three screens is not a very good idea. Because, once again, we go back to the same problems that ruin multiple GPU set ups.

They are, of course, identical. About 2% of games that are released are made to work properly on three screens. This is because the target audience would equate to about 1%. That 1% are the ones stupid enough to think that if they lash out two grand on GPUs and screens that the game makers will give a shit and cater to them. Hint - in reality they don't, so about one in five of the games I own can be hacked to work on three screens. I own three games that will do it natively, and one of them is a sequel to its predecessor. Hardly very exciting, especially when you realise that most games won't even load at all with three screens plugged in.

As I mentioned in my blog post if these companies really are as stupid as to base their business model on these pointless technologies then all we will see is foreclosures. Mind you, it's got to be more exciting that 2012's gaming line up
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I went from gaming on a 24" monitor to a 47" TV and I can honestly say i'm never going back to a 24" screen again, the bigger the screen you can get for gaming the better imo and if going triple screen is what you want to do then these new cards are the ones you want to be buying.

I took Nfenix downstairs and gamed on my 42" plasma. Then I realised that -

1. You can't put a 42" screen on a desk with a keyboard and mouse.

2. Because of 1 it wasn't PC gaming as I had to use a joypad.

3. It was pointless.

It's not always as black and white as you don't need it so why get it. Advancements in technology are constantly happening and these new cards are a part of that advancement, if the 7970 is anything to go by then I look forward to seeing what else comes of it.

No no, it is as black and white as I see it. It's idiots who come up with all of these excuses and stupid reasons that make it all go very fuzzy. The same idiots who keep buying into these pointless technologies and ideas.
 
And we all know that they can't afford to do that. Quite simply if they do they'll be in trouble again, and I'm not so sure they can afford to be in trouble again so soon after the Fermi problems.

There is nothing to be excited about over the gains over existing hardware. The problem of course is the word "existing". They are using existing software and existing games. Some of these games are five years old. That's called reaching, not demonstrating. The previous generation had DX11. It was, technically, no different to DX10 but at least it sounded new and fresh. Sadly it was a flop, but hey, at least it was something to sort of be excited about as it was supposed to leave existing technology, software and games, in the dark. It didn't, but hey, at least it had a big mouth and managed to shout loudly enough to make us sit up and pay attention.

So the 7970 almost goes as fast as a 590. A card we have had the opportunity of owning for nearly a year. I still fail to see what is exciting about that, given that hardly any one needed a 590 in the first place. They are trying to replace a card that wasn't exactly main stream in the first place.

And the jump in performance may well be massive, but there's no getting away from the fact that that performance is in software we already have and could already use to the fullest. Faster does not add function. Function wise apart from a few pointless ones these cards have nothing to offer at all.

I mean shit, they could have at least talked to M$ and talked them into releasing another stupid pointless API to woo us with.

Okay I was going to cover that logic in my recent bloq-esque post, but I shall cover it now.

1. Scaling refers to multiple GPUs. Multiple GPUs rely on software and drivers that only partially exist, so will never be truly worth having or a standard. As long as a computer with one graphics card in it exists multiple GPUs can never become a tried and tested standard that software companies will feel like supporting. Meaning again, you are the minority and thus you deserve every stutter ridden frame displayed to you. Buying a multiple GPU set up is pretty bloody stupid.

As for power draw? Allow me to demonstrate the flaw in that logic. You see, when I bought my 42" plasma TV for £400 a 42" LCD was £600. I went to a store (even though I intended to order it online) and the salesman there tried to convince me that the LCD screen uses less power. I already knew this, and, because I'm not stupid I had decided to research it. I found that for the LCD TV to make up the price difference it would take six years . And by that time I would have no doubt replaced it with a bigger one or something. Either way it was not worth the hype nor the investment.

Your logic negates to mention that people who fall for such sales patters will replace the card long before it could pay for itself in a electrical usage sense. Heat? as long as the card doesn't fail it's fine. People are willing to put up with it (as they haven't had much of a choice in the past when hot was in).

These cards do nothing that the ones we have can not do. It is as simple as that. A GTX 590 is more than capable of 1600p gaming with more than acceptable frame rates, so the 7970 offers nothing more. The GTX 590 can run three screens in surround AND do 3dvision, CUDA and Physx. So actually the 7970 on a technical level can do less.

These new cards do not allow you to do anything you can not do with a card or a computer that already exists. Those are facts.

Because that is what a salesman does. He will bend the truth and try and convince you that you need this new product, even though it may well be completely pointless.

For a quick example, BT. I decided (as my final straw snapped) to get rid of BT and replace it with Talk Talk. Many reasons, but to sum up Talk Talk were LLU so my internet is three times faster. Not only that, but over all the entire package costs me half of what the BT one did. BT could not offer more than 6m with a download limit of 100gb a month. This is because they use 50 year old lines. Not only that but they over sold the broadband in my area.

So today when they phoned and tried to convince me that what I had put up with before was better than what I had now, at double the price, was just hilarious. In the end I simply said "If you are so wonderful why is it that you offer half of what I have now for twice the money?".

Hoping people will rush out and buy three screens is not a very good idea. Because, once again, we go back to the same problems that ruin multiple GPU set ups.

They are, of course, identical. About 2% of games that are released are made to work properly on three screens. This is because the target audience would equate to about 1%. That 1% are the ones stupid enough to think that if they lash out two grand on GPUs and screens that the game makers will give a shit and cater to them. Hint - in reality they don't, so about one in five of the games I own can be hacked to work on three screens. I own three games that will do it natively, and one of them is a sequel to its predecessor. Hardly very exciting, especially when you realise that most games won't even load at all with three screens plugged in.

As I mentioned in my blog post if these companies really are as shit thick as to base their business model on these pointless technologies then all we will see is foreclosures. Mind you, it's got to be more exciting that 2012's gaming line up
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I took Nfenix downstairs and gamed on my 42" plasma. Then I realised that -

1. You can't put a 42" screen on a desk with a keyboard and mouse.

2. Because of 1 it wasn't PC gaming as I had to use a joypad.

3. It was pointless.

No no, it is as black and white as I see it. It's idiots who come up with all of these excuses and stupid reasons that make it all go very fuzzy. The same idiots who keep buying into these pointless technologies and ideas.

Your in the wrong profession.
 
These cards do nothing that the ones we have can not do. It is as simple as that. A GTX 590 is more than capable of 1600p gaming with more than acceptable frame rates, so the 7970 offers nothing more. The GTX 590 can run three screens in surround AND do 3dvision, CUDA and Physx. So actually the 7970 on a technical level can do less.

7970 is single, 590 is dual.
 
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