780ti which one?

[SamEkinci]

AMD prices are supposed to be lower than they currently are but bitcoin mining have encouraged etailers/retailes to put up prices. The price cuts on nvidia have been good however I still maintain that certain 290s are better value than most (not all, certain 780s are much more worth it) of the 780s. Not all of them though. Also people still go on about the heat issue and I imagine that has affected sales a bit. Also only the Titan BE seems likely to be the only one to come out that AMD don't have an answer for. This is because the titan is more a compute card than a gaming card. The 790 (if it happens) would most likely be 2 lower clocked 780s. If the 790 does appear, I imagine AMD will produce a dual 290 card later on, much like what happened with the 7990/690 war. the Dual 290 will be hilariously hard to cool if AMD go about the cooling like the did with the 290x though.

Off topic,

Well, its hard to say if AMD predicted the 290 prices to jump up due to bit coin mining. Whether it did or not, the card is selling like crazy, and AMD is going to profit from this big time. That being said, their stocks were at all time high around new years, but its already going down big time to almost where it was a year ago. Because they although they are sold out, they were selling the cards with little profit, while retailers were bumping up the prices. AMD took the hit and bad publicity for all that. Enough that people stopped waiting for prices to lower and moved on to buy nVidia.

If the bitcoin mining craze dies down, or miners go from AMD to say something else next, then AMD is going to screw its next lineup with insane amount of used cards being available on eBay. Not to mention people like me who were dying to buy AMD now have a bad taste in their mouth and moved on to nVidia. These people will likely not go back to AMD because of the bitcoin mining craze.

On topic;

As for the Kingpin, I am pretty sure EVGA said that its aimed at LN2 overclockers. Although, unlocked voltage will make it awesome with custom water cooling.

 

[barnsley]

If the bitcoin mining craze dies down, or miners go from AMD to say something else next, then AMD is going to screw its next lineup with insane amount of used cards being available on eBay. Not to mention people like me who were dying to buy AMD now have a bad taste in their mouth and moved on to nVidia. These people will likely not go back to AMD because of the bitcoin mining craze.
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Nah, I'd say the conversion between the two hasn't been affected at all. I'd say the amount of builds that use AMD cards hasn't changed (over here atleast). I've never regretted moving over to AMD 'cards (apart from now, when I can now afford more than one gpu xD). I'll probably switch over to Nvidia for a change come next pc I build as I fancy a change/not being called an AMD fanboy eveytime people ask what my specifications are.

on topic:
The Kingpin appears to be less happy to be OC'd on air compared to the Normal classy. Everyone here who has a classy seems to really like them so I'd go with the flow and grab one if I was the OP.

 

[qhfreddy]

Off topic,

Although, unlocked voltage will make it awesome with custom water cooling.

But Tom said don't mess with the voltage <_<

 

[SamEkinci]

But Tom said don't mess with the voltage <_<

Was he talking about the Kingpin? I think he was talking about the regular line of 780tis.. I might be missing something..

 

[Dicehunter]

have you seen the kingpin 780ti !!!!! holy powersupplies batman !!!!

You wont get any more out of a kingpin than you can out of any other 780 Ti as they are really only for LN2 and look so cheap and nasty compared to other 780 Ti's.

Personally I'd either go with a reference as they looks the shizznitts or a Classified 780 Ti

 

[qhfreddy]

You wont get any more out of a kingpin than you can out of any other 780 Ti as they are really only for LN2 and look so cheap and nasty compared to other 780 Ti's.

Personally I'd either go with a reference as they looks the shizznitts or a Classified 780 Ti

I'd actually like to see a verification as far as that goes... If you are using it watercooled I doubt you will run into the thermal limits with the stock card/VRM and the voltages that can achieve. If you are willing to risk the lifespan of your chip, adding volts within the thermal limits should give you extra clocks.

 

[barnsley]

I'd actually like to see a verification as far as that goes... If you are using it watercooled I doubt you will run into the thermal limits with the stock card/VRM and the voltages that can achieve. If you are willing to risk the lifespan of your chip, adding volts within the thermal limits should give you extra clocks.

K|NGP|N himself said it wasn't for water/air OCing and many benchers have said you can't go as high on a KP|N then you can on a regular due to the VRM being designed to work with LN2 more.

 

[Warchild]

I'd actually like to see a verification as far as that goes... If you are using it watercooled I doubt you will run into the thermal limits with the stock card/VRM and the voltages that can achieve. If you are willing to risk the lifespan of your chip, adding volts within the thermal limits should give you extra clocks.

Further more, due to the tightly timed samsung memory in use, unless you use Ln2 your overclock on the memory will be poor.

You wanted a review. Here it is

http://www.hardwareasylum.com/reviews/video/evga_gtx780ti_classified-kp/page13.aspx