Jacob.xray
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Stupid i know but is ivy bridge (3rd gen CPU) going to be on 2011 or is it just 1155 and if so will i need it to use 3rd gen PCI espress lains
2011 Question
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Ivy Bridge-E should arrive on the 2011 socket next year if leaked Intel roadmaps are anything to go by. But the performance of Ivy Bridge isn't that much higher than Sandy Bridge as it's mainly just a die shrink it isn't a new architecture.
Ivy Bridge-E should support PCIe 3.0 on LGA 2011 however most LGA 2011 motherboards already support PCIe 3.0 when used with a Sandy Bridge-E chip. It is only the GTX 680 by NVIDIA that does not negotiate PCIe 3.0 speeds with X79 platforms. The HD 7970 however does.
Ivy Bridge-E should support PCIe 3.0 on LGA 2011 however most LGA 2011 motherboards already support PCIe 3.0 when used with a Sandy Bridge-E chip. It is only the GTX 680 by NVIDIA that does not negotiate PCIe 3.0 speeds with X79 platforms. The HD 7970 however does.
Josh Weston
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^what he said (as he said it far better than I did)
Jacob.xray
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ok cool that should work out great because im getting 7970's
jimbojames
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What - I didn't know this!!! I'm getting kitted up with a 3930k and was going to get a 680 (or 690 - we'll see tomorrow
What - I didn't know this!!! I'm getting kitted up with a 3930k and was going to get a 680 (or 690 - we'll see tomorrow) - if I were going to get a 680 - how would this affect me (apart from the obvious that it wont run at pci3 speeds)? Would a future software update change this?
A future software update could change it. Although if they will do that.. who knows. They've not said they will.
What effect will it have on your gaming? None. PCIe x16 2.0 is more than fast enough for these cards you won't see any performance loss with a GTX 680. You may see some performance issues with multiple cards. Like Tri or Quad SLI.
by the time they release IB-E , the world will be a different place!
If IB-E just updates the current SB-E chips that they have now, the people who are already on 2011, will most likly will not upgrade to IB-E.
If IB-E brings us different models with newer choices in CPUs, like 8 or more cores for example, than some will upgrade.
Second gen 2011 might get a new chipset, and we may need a new board to fix all the problems we have ran into so far, and intergrate new tech being developed, so we may need new gear anyway to upgrade,
On the graphics card side of things we will be on the verge of them releasing the 780 or 880, and the 8000 series of cards depending on how the graphics card wars play out this year.
These cards might need PCI-e 3.0, we will have to wait and find out.
Haswell will be getting leaked for 1155(or on a new socket) and its improvements may have SB-e looking old and slow just like SB on 1155 did to all the 1366 stuff when it came out, we will just have to wait and see.
I recommend , unless you own all these companies that control the tech, the time it will be released, and how good it will be compared to the last generation stuff, stop worring about having the latest and greatest now, because what you buy today will be obsolete as soon as you boot it up, because in labs across the world something better is being developed to replace it. This is how the tech industry has always been, and will always be!
It just amazes me that people with new 2011 gear are worried weather their game is playing thru a PCI-e 3.0 or 2.0 interface at over 150fps while they play on 60Hz monitors, when most people are happy getting 30fps and can care less if its PCI-e 2.0, 1.0 ,USB,Firewire, legacy PCI, forget the interface just as long as it works.
just calm down rip thru your work blazing fast with all those cores so you got more time to relax and play some games....
If IB-E just updates the current SB-E chips that they have now, the people who are already on 2011, will most likly will not upgrade to IB-E.
If IB-E brings us different models with newer choices in CPUs, like 8 or more cores for example, than some will upgrade.
Second gen 2011 might get a new chipset, and we may need a new board to fix all the problems we have ran into so far, and intergrate new tech being developed, so we may need new gear anyway to upgrade,
On the graphics card side of things we will be on the verge of them releasing the 780 or 880, and the 8000 series of cards depending on how the graphics card wars play out this year.
These cards might need PCI-e 3.0, we will have to wait and find out.
Haswell will be getting leaked for 1155(or on a new socket) and its improvements may have SB-e looking old and slow just like SB on 1155 did to all the 1366 stuff when it came out, we will just have to wait and see.
I recommend , unless you own all these companies that control the tech, the time it will be released, and how good it will be compared to the last generation stuff, stop worring about having the latest and greatest now, because what you buy today will be obsolete as soon as you boot it up, because in labs across the world something better is being developed to replace it. This is how the tech industry has always been, and will always be!
It just amazes me that people with new 2011 gear are worried weather their game is playing thru a PCI-e 3.0 or 2.0 interface at over 150fps while they play on 60Hz monitors, when most people are happy getting 30fps and can care less if its PCI-e 2.0, 1.0 ,USB,Firewire, legacy PCI, forget the interface just as long as it works.
just calm down rip thru your work blazing fast with all those cores so you got more time to relax and play some games....
What - I didn't know this!!! I'm getting kitted up with a 3930k and was going to get a 680 (or 690 - we'll see tomorrow) - if I were going to get a 680 - how would this affect me (apart from the obvious that it wont run at pci3 speeds)? Would a future software update change this?
Yes. NVidia is currently working on validating a future driver update to fix the 680 x79 pci-e 3.0. I doubt you will notice any difference though as your cards will not be held back in anyway by 2.0 bandwidth.
I've done some sleuthing online and it would appear that NVIDIA does intend to release an updated driver that certifies some X79 motherboards (on a board by board basis) for PCIe 3.0 usage with the GTX 680 and GTX 690. This thread has the lowdown from an NVIDIA representative: http://forums.nvidia...dpost&p=1391992
This is great news!
This is great news!
SparkleDJackson
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Further on down a guy does testing and mentions a word that rastalovich is far from fond of. BOTTLENECKING
Master&Puppet
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But sadly there is some bandwidth issue with pcie3 cards saturating pcie2 x8 lanes (4gb/s). Even then you will at worst drop 15% fps which is negligible given the power of multiple pcie3 cards at the moment.
You still only need a 3570k on a z77 though unless you are using more than 2 pcie3 gpus (or more than 1 690/7990).
You still only need a 3570k on a z77 though unless you are using more than 2 pcie3 gpus (or more than 1 690/7990).
