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Old 30-07-20, 10:59 AM
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Rumour has it that AMD's "Big Navi" GPU isn't a powerful as expected

Maybe Big Navi isn't an "Nvidia killer".



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Old 30-07-20, 11:12 AM
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I'm so shocked......


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Old 30-07-20, 11:34 AM
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They could be faster and cheaper than the 3xxx cards but I still wouldn't touch one, given the appalling standard of AMD's drivers.

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With this in mind, AMD's next-generation flagship is expected to be an RTX 3080 competitor.
..Potential GPU enthusiast customers may be disappointed with this but for AMD I bet they will be more than happy to have a stack of Navi cards that can match 95% of what Nvidia has to offer.

..I doubt leaving the 5% of people willing to pay the $1000+ for a 'Ti' class GPU to Nvidia, is something AMD will lose sleep over.
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Old 30-07-20, 12:02 PM
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" Coreteks reports that AMD's next-generation flagship will only be 15% more powerful than Nvidia's RTX 2080 Ti, and that is in "optimised" titles. "


Hang on. The last I read or watched about it their flagship was going to be as good as a 2080Ti and every one lost their s**t because they were so happy about that. Now it is supposed to be an Nvidia 3000 killer and it's "only" 15% faster in optimised titles?

Who cares? the 2080Ti is, and still will be, more than enough for any one for years to come. People are still getting 60 FPS and are very happy with RX 580s ffs.

This stuff all really makes me laugh. It really does. Like, when the RX 470 and 480 were about to launch we were told in quite clear English that it would compete with the GTX 970 and 980 and no more. Yet people were disappointed and actually thought Polaris was crap because it wasn't a 980Ti killer. All because some d1ck head got excited and started to exaggerate.

Makes me laugh, man. If AMD come up with a card as fast as a 2080Ti it will be a MASSIVE success for them, and us.
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Old 30-07-20, 12:16 PM
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They could be faster and cheaper than the 3xxx cards but I still wouldn't touch one, given the appalling standard of AMD's drivers.

AMD drivers are at least as good as Nvidias and the software is better.
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I never really expected a top end killer. The 2080Ti class is quite niche. It's too expensive for most gamers but isn't profitable enough for the prosumer and business categories. It makes sense that a 2080Ti +15% will offer similar performance to an RTX 3080 at a lower price. If an RTX 3080 is €750 and the RX is €700 with the same performance and power consumption, that's an Nvidia killer. It's a card that handily beats another card from a much bigger company. Hence Nvidia killer. Still massive hyberpole, but that's AMD for you. And if AMD compete in everything below an RTX 3080, RDNA2 will be a huge success. And it should improve as next gen consoles become the new norm.
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Old 30-07-20, 12:33 PM
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AMD drivers are at least as good as Nvidias and the software is better.
There are far more reports of AMD black screens and driver problems than Nvidia. And given that Nvidia sell lets say twice as many cards, that tells you alot.

The software is good though I agree.
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Old 30-07-20, 12:45 PM
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There are far more reports of AMD black screens and driver problems than Nvidia. And given that Nvidia sell lets say twice as many cards, that tells you alot.

The software is good though I agree.
To be fair, these issues with RX5000 are usually down to certain "problem SKUs", most AMD cards with mindfactory and others have RMA rates similar to their NVidia counterparts, then a few SKU's from certain brands will have like 10% RMA rates. Research on the drivers themselves haven't found any stand out problems in the past, though I haven't seen any further research on that since RX5000.

Still though, the thing AMD has been really missing these past 5 or so years is not an absolute top end smacker, it's a high end card that can maintain something loosely resembling a profit margin while still being price competitive. RDNA1 has already delivered them very healthy marketshare gains with only minor undercuts in the mid to low end markets, if they can step that up a little notch and do it across the board they'll be golden for now.
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Old 30-07-20, 01:03 PM
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Just a day after Rick Bergman says they would offer enthusiasts the best (?).
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Old 30-07-20, 01:20 PM
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To be fair, these issues with RX5000 are usually down to certain "problem SKUs", most AMD cards with mindfactory and others have RMA rates similar to their NVidia counterparts, then a few SKU's from certain brands will have like 10% RMA rates. Research on the drivers themselves haven't found any stand out problems in the past, though I haven't seen any further research on that since RX5000.

Still though, the thing AMD has been really missing these past 5 or so years is not an absolute top end smacker, it's a high end card that can maintain something loosely resembling a profit margin while still being price competitive. RDNA1 has already delivered them very healthy marketshare gains with only minor undercuts in the mid to low end markets, if they can step that up a little notch and do it across the board they'll be golden for now.
im not talking about RMA. IM talking about years and years of "driver has stopped working" or black screens going back as far as fury X. Or poor FPS which was fixed via driver updates months after AAA title X had been released on the market.

And the reason why driver problems hadnt stood out is because they could never solve the issue and it carried over from driver to driver.

My partner has an R9 290 just to play warhammer, even to this day, she still has issues which get resolved by doing a DDU and re install. I don't even need to show her anything, shes more experienced with the problems than I am.
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