Taken from another forum i use
"I am going to be investing in an Apple MacBook Pro in the next two weeks, but what I have seen at work with the new processors coming out (Core i7 is not new and we are at least 3 generations ahead, I have signed an NDA so cant really spill what I know but wish I could) I really don't know what to do because when you buy a PC you know it will be obsolete in the next 3 weeks and there cheap, but with a Mac its more of an investment as you are paying a lot of money for them.
I am going with the 17" which is one generation back as I don't like the look of the new one and I will be waiting until after the MacWorld Expo to see what's coming out but that will only be for the next year and after that I could be out of date and £1800 down
I know Macs out perform PC's as my old 1.33Ghz Powerbook wiped the floor with my higher spec NX9010 2.66Ghz HP Laptop and ran games faster in Virtual PC6 than the HP ran them natively. But the next 17" MacBook Pro is going to be even faster.
My prodicament can only go down the Mac path as I will not under any cercamstances have another Windows machine again as I cant stand Windows, every one of my Win machines had the OS go corrupt or just get so infected with old programs and crap I would get to the point where i had to flatten it or it just popped and I would loose ££££'s worth of programs and data, and after my 5th laptop has gone buts i cant take Windows anymore.
The last Mac I had just worked, never slowed down and did what it said on the tin plus it looked so much better than any Windows laptop out there.
But how long do I wait? get one now and in 3 months they put Blue Ray and Core i7's in them with SSD's as standard would mean I would kill someone.
Why is life so hard? Why cant I have an agreement where they are banned from issuing a new model untill mine has out lived itself :mrgreen:"
then
"I find that hard to hear as you have tested 1 pc against 1 Mac and you are basing Macs being crap on this! Tut Tut :mrgreen:
I spent a large amount of my working life in the Config centre where we had customers spending up and over £10K on a PC (we used to fight each other to build them instead of installing 100 copies of Office all day ](*,) ). On one occasion we had a customer pay just over £11K and we benchmarked this against a Mac Pro, needless to say the Mac walked all over it with a serious margin and had expansion room still left inside it. Making all of us ask why he wanted it (turns out he had Windows only software :-s )
It all depends what Mac you got to play with and against what PC, the G5, G4’s were ok but nothing like today’s Mac Pro’s. I don’t care how good a PC is, Its not going to run faster than a Mac Pro as it can run Dual 3.2Ghz Quad-Core Processors with 24MB Cache (12MB Per Processor) & 1600MHz FSB, 32GB of Ram, up to four ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT cards :shock: :shock: :shock: , Support for up to eight 30-inch displays, upto 4x 1TB SATA or 300GB SAS in RAID-0, all for less than a Ailenware PC of lesser spec and much faster to boot.
My old Powerbook was 1.33Ghz, 2GB, 60GB HDD and a 128MB Radeon, My HP was a 2.66Ghz, 2GB, 40GB and a 128MB Radeon and the Mac wiped the floor with it on every angle (It played Tribes 2 Virtualised using Virtual PC6 faster than the HP ran it natively!!!), and with what Margin? Well my current laptop is a Toshiba with 1.6Ghz Centrino Duo, 4GB Ram, 60GB HDD and a 256MB Radeon x1400 and the Mac had (Past sense as I dropped it :shock: ](*,) :?
) higher frame rate in UT2K4, Quake 3, and a few other games, It ran Photoshop MUCH faster and when I plugged anything into it, it just worked without the thousands of hours of configuration required to get a printer working. Now think how fast Dual 2.5Ghz Cores and a 512MB Graphics card will be compared :twisted:
That’s beside the point as I don’t want a PC as I need a notebook as I want the freedom to go where I want round the house, I have a 3TB “Movie” NAS Drive in the Cinema room and this is also to run that so with the flexibility I also need HDMI (Through DVI Adapter) and Optical Audio to plug into the AV Receiver and the MacBook Pro has them along with a very high spec to boot. The only way you will get a notebook faster than a MacBook Pro is to go Dell XPS (I think that’s what it is) or Alienware and both run Windows which I don’t want, both are ugly plastic boxes (Nice Alien face on one but the Apple logo is better IMHO, its got more features, and a better OS.
I’m no fanboy (I know I come across that way) but I do like Mac’s and unlike the vast majority of people who give there 2p’s worth on how $hit Mac’s are I have not only owned one, but use one on a regular basis, built, benchmarked, tested and compared them to other items of hardware and I know their not $hit and far from it."
"To a degree this comment is correct, I have not had an infection for a long while as I do know what I am doing 8-
"I am going to be investing in an Apple MacBook Pro in the next two weeks, but what I have seen at work with the new processors coming out (Core i7 is not new and we are at least 3 generations ahead, I have signed an NDA so cant really spill what I know but wish I could) I really don't know what to do because when you buy a PC you know it will be obsolete in the next 3 weeks and there cheap, but with a Mac its more of an investment as you are paying a lot of money for them.
I am going with the 17" which is one generation back as I don't like the look of the new one and I will be waiting until after the MacWorld Expo to see what's coming out but that will only be for the next year and after that I could be out of date and £1800 down
I know Macs out perform PC's as my old 1.33Ghz Powerbook wiped the floor with my higher spec NX9010 2.66Ghz HP Laptop and ran games faster in Virtual PC6 than the HP ran them natively. But the next 17" MacBook Pro is going to be even faster.
My prodicament can only go down the Mac path as I will not under any cercamstances have another Windows machine again as I cant stand Windows, every one of my Win machines had the OS go corrupt or just get so infected with old programs and crap I would get to the point where i had to flatten it or it just popped and I would loose ££££'s worth of programs and data, and after my 5th laptop has gone buts i cant take Windows anymore.
The last Mac I had just worked, never slowed down and did what it said on the tin plus it looked so much better than any Windows laptop out there.
But how long do I wait? get one now and in 3 months they put Blue Ray and Core i7's in them with SSD's as standard would mean I would kill someone.
Why is life so hard? Why cant I have an agreement where they are banned from issuing a new model untill mine has out lived itself :mrgreen:"
then
name='"mr2daz"' said:
"I find that hard to hear as you have tested 1 pc against 1 Mac and you are basing Macs being crap on this! Tut Tut :mrgreen:
I spent a large amount of my working life in the Config centre where we had customers spending up and over £10K on a PC (we used to fight each other to build them instead of installing 100 copies of Office all day ](*,) ). On one occasion we had a customer pay just over £11K and we benchmarked this against a Mac Pro, needless to say the Mac walked all over it with a serious margin and had expansion room still left inside it. Making all of us ask why he wanted it (turns out he had Windows only software :-s )
It all depends what Mac you got to play with and against what PC, the G5, G4’s were ok but nothing like today’s Mac Pro’s. I don’t care how good a PC is, Its not going to run faster than a Mac Pro as it can run Dual 3.2Ghz Quad-Core Processors with 24MB Cache (12MB Per Processor) & 1600MHz FSB, 32GB of Ram, up to four ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT cards :shock: :shock: :shock: , Support for up to eight 30-inch displays, upto 4x 1TB SATA or 300GB SAS in RAID-0, all for less than a Ailenware PC of lesser spec and much faster to boot.
My old Powerbook was 1.33Ghz, 2GB, 60GB HDD and a 128MB Radeon, My HP was a 2.66Ghz, 2GB, 40GB and a 128MB Radeon and the Mac wiped the floor with it on every angle (It played Tribes 2 Virtualised using Virtual PC6 faster than the HP ran it natively!!!), and with what Margin? Well my current laptop is a Toshiba with 1.6Ghz Centrino Duo, 4GB Ram, 60GB HDD and a 256MB Radeon x1400 and the Mac had (Past sense as I dropped it :shock: ](*,) :?
) higher frame rate in UT2K4, Quake 3, and a few other games, It ran Photoshop MUCH faster and when I plugged anything into it, it just worked without the thousands of hours of configuration required to get a printer working. Now think how fast Dual 2.5Ghz Cores and a 512MB Graphics card will be compared :twisted: That’s beside the point as I don’t want a PC as I need a notebook as I want the freedom to go where I want round the house, I have a 3TB “Movie” NAS Drive in the Cinema room and this is also to run that so with the flexibility I also need HDMI (Through DVI Adapter) and Optical Audio to plug into the AV Receiver and the MacBook Pro has them along with a very high spec to boot. The only way you will get a notebook faster than a MacBook Pro is to go Dell XPS (I think that’s what it is) or Alienware and both run Windows which I don’t want, both are ugly plastic boxes (Nice Alien face on one but the Apple logo is better IMHO, its got more features, and a better OS.
I’m no fanboy (I know I come across that way) but I do like Mac’s and unlike the vast majority of people who give there 2p’s worth on how $hit Mac’s are I have not only owned one, but use one on a regular basis, built, benchmarked, tested and compared them to other items of hardware and I know their not $hit and far from it."
name='"SamUK"' said:
"To a degree this comment is correct, I have not had an infection for a long while as I do know what I am doing 8-
ekona said:
