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Might want to start looking for a different card
Dear Santa,

I havent been a good boy. But I know that you employ elves who look seriously under the age of legal employment. Hook me up with a 3090 and ill look the other way...

Yours.

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Old Yesterday, 09:45 PM
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Dear Santa,

I havent been a good boy. But I know that you employ elves who look seriously under the age of legal employment. Hook me up with a 3090 and ill look the other way...

Yours.

Anonymous Wishful thinker.
Why do you think he only keeps a list of the naughty boys and girls, you can't blackmail the good ones
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Old Today, 10:02 AM
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Some Q&A from Nvidia.


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What changes are you making to the NVIDIA Store moving forward?
As with many other etailers, the NVIDIA Store was also overrun with malicious bots and resellers. To combat this challenge we have made the following changes: we moved our NVIDIA Store to a dedicated environment, with increased capacity and more bot protection. We updated the code to be more efficient on the server load. We integrated CAPTCHA to the checkout flow to help offset the use of bots. We implemented additional security protections to the store APIs. And more efforts are underway.

You said the NVIDIA store would have GeForce RTX 3080s at 6 a.m. on September 17th, why did the store immediately go from “notify me” to “out of stock”?
At 6 a.m. pacific we attempted to push the NVIDIA store live. Instantly, the NVIDIA store was inundated with over 10 times the traffic of our previous generation launch, which took our internal systems to a crawl and encountered an error preventing sales from starting properly at 6:00am pacific. We were able to resolve the issues and process orders later than planned.

I saw individuals who use bots/scripts celebrating the purchase of multiple GeForce RTX 3080 GPUs! Did bots get all of the available supply?
No. While individuals using bots may have shown images of email inboxes filled with confirmed orders, NVIDIA has cancelled hundreds of orders manually before they were able to ship.
I don't know if I feel sorry for the bot purchasers or not. Maybe yes for those who used it to legitimately try to get a card for personal home use, and no for those intending to sell fo profit. But to see many cancelled... ouch!
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Some Q&A from Nvidia.

I don't know if I feel sorry for the bot purchasers or not. Maybe yes for those who used it to legitimately try to get a card for personal home use, and no for those intending to sell fo profit. But to see many cancelled... ouch!

That's actually pretty decent of them to put this amount of effort in to try and combat scalpers.
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Here is a conspiracy thought, that from a corporation point of view could make sense.

Consider the global pandemic. People dont have money to burn.

Now consider the corporation with a new product they want to mass produce, but have no idea how much to produce without being stuck with surplus in the launch. And more offerings just around the corner.

Lets say Nvidia intentionally created demand with a ridiculous low quantity at launch, knowing these would instantly sell out. But also generate an incredible amount of pre orders. Straight away you have a guesstimate on how many to produce in the next run, selling just enough to cater for the masses, and not being stuck with a single GPU left over, all the time focusing on the next 3080 20gb sku.

Its a typical corporation manoeuvre so we can't really complain. The world going nuts is just a sign how impatient everyone is.
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I can't see the savings in potential surplus being worth the hammering these companies take on the stock market when they do launches like this, it's not gonna please shareholders and is generally bad long term PR. As they highlight in their message, part of the issue with their launch came down to expensive rookie errors and lack of foresight, like not having any kind of meaningful human validation system to protect from bots, it's not a great look.

Even then, there's the customers, I know a lot of people who "ordered" 3080's from OCUK and such who are now getting indications cards might not be available for them until late October, and now the AMD rumours are flying around some are starting to question their original "purchase"/pre-order altogether.
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Here is a conspiracy thought, that from a corporation point of view could make sense.

Consider the global pandemic. People dont have money to burn.

Now consider the corporation with a new product they want to mass produce, but have no idea how much to produce without being stuck with surplus in the launch. And more offerings just around the corner.

Lets say Nvidia intentionally created demand with a ridiculous low quantity at launch, knowing these would instantly sell out. But also generate an incredible amount of pre orders. Straight away you have a guesstimate on how many to produce in the next run, selling just enough to cater for the masses, and not being stuck with a single GPU left over, all the time focusing on the next 3080 20gb sku.

Its a typical corporation manoeuvre so we can't really complain. The world going nuts is just a sign how impatient everyone is.
This is a main part of the problem with anything like this, create artficial scarcity, let hype build among the masses, and watch the vast majority start screaming "I WANT IT!" thinking owning such an item would make them part of an exclusive/elite group, and clamouring over each other without a second thought of whether or not they actually NEED it.

I was fairly impressed with the 3080 reviews; would it outperform my Vega? Absolutely, it would trample all over it. But do I need one? No. If more people would hold back and think whether they actually do need something rather than outright going mad, it wouldn't be no where near as bad.
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