Xigmatek AIO-S80DP All-in-1 liquid cooling system

name='Ham' said:
Interesting idea. But that must weigh a ton...
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Doubt it, if you look at the dimensions:

Heatsink Dimensions: 114x128x121 mm

So it isn't actually very big, only uses 80mm fans on the side. Shouldn't be a problem.
 
So what if its small? Its (supposedly) full of water for a start. If the rads any good its copper/brass = heavy. Add a pump and youll have a weighty object.

Enless it totally sucks. All alu, stupidly thin tubes and pump made out of the motor out a toothbrush or something.
 
Yep full of water, except the copper, except the fan, except the leverage off the base, etc etc.

Im not saying it wont be heavy I just don't think it will be anything exponential.
 
Haha, wow, haven't seen that before. I would guestimate performance comparable with a fairly good aircooler, though hopefully less noisy.
 
was looking at this earlier today,and was wondering if its any good,may get one to throw on my old venice
 
S80dp

I think there down to £27 + Vat. Heavy or not I'm guessing the majority is an Aluminium composite with a brass base. And the fact the fan can only blow in one direction as it's mounted between the 2 radiators means its sucking air from one (which is warm or hot) and blowing it directly onto the other thus defeating the object. I suppose if the Cfm (Cubic Feet per Minute) was high enough

then it won't be a problem but that just makes noise (exactly what's trying to be avoided). What about the weight on a tower system where the motherboard is vertical the whole body of the cooler would be suspended on 4 holes and may distort the Motherboard over time?? Unless there's a plastic mounting plate to distribute the weight evenly in a square. Hhmm it's quite a lot to consider.....might end up under my grinder and modified to accommodate the North bridge (which would lose the heat pipe design...not). Nahh.. this one is for someone else to test...gimmie the results and let me know how long before the CPU smoked out.....:nono:
 
It's absolute pants, even worse than a cheap air cooler.

Anyone who expected anything else from a cheap "all-in-one watercooler" are are quite deluded. Theres a reason why top-end watercooling costs alot of money, if it could be done cheap and compact every man and his dog would be releasing units.:)
 
So we saying we should never look at something this small that could be a unique innovative idea from a single company and dismiss them out of hand ?

Remember people saying similar things about big arse tower coolers when they emerged.
 
Ur missing the point, the device could be the crappest thing since some1 tried using chalk as thermal goo - the point is u think we should dismiss with totally futility any new idea that enters the market - and feel silly about thinking anything that looked like this could ever be a viable option vS wc'ing ?

That's the only thing u've told any1 here.
 
My opinions are based on practical knowledge though. Anyone who's serious about watercooling only has to look at the spec sheet to see the flaws:

-2x80mm Rads

-Small fan

-Aluminum+Copper in same loop

-Weak, low power pump

Theres a reason why the likes of Feser and BlackIce release monster 480/560mm rads, because when it comes to watercooling area is the key. It's simple physics that 2 small (aluminum, not as effective as copper/brass) isn't going to be able to dissipate much heat. Plus this isn't a new idea at all, SilentKnight, CoolerMaster and Thermaltake have all had similar products before, and all were just as bad. As I said, theres a fundamental reason why this approach doesn't work and it has nothing to do with peoples dismission of the companies.

Dynamics, the guys behind that crazy liquid metal cooler, are doing the right thing in seeking out alternative methods of cooling (as were OCZ with the Hydrojet before they canned it), why companies are continually trying to shrink current forms of cooling, while CPU's and GPU's are getting hotter and more overclockable, I just dont know.
 
HHmm when I joined this forum I figured it was cool discussion and not everyone trying to prove a bigger boffin than his her counterpart. I had compiled some stuff to show that every opinion strays from fundamental physics. Anyway if I get a crappo response I will simply remove my subscription and any proven projects I have at cooling CPU's without water cooling would be sadly lost as i thought my discussion would prompt people to use theory not just a load of hot air My CPU is bigger than yours thus I'm more intelligent etc etc.... anyway here goes....

Oh yeah No one ever said the S80DP was designed for overclocking but reliable at maintaining a stable windows eg between 29 and 39 degrees C where other solutions struggle to keep inside that window, when demands for CPU increase with applications.

Lets look at whats been said! First of all the radiator size makes only a part of a problem, Example if anyone (I'm guessing everyone) knows how a radiator is constructed is by a method called multi pass, IE; a copper pipe passes left to right several times and has covering copper fins attached to these lines, So a 4 pass radiator would exit on the same side as the entry and 5 pass the opposite side, if its low pass then not enough time to cool properly, but 12 15 20 pass will mean its present in the radiator for longer thus cooling longer, but means the pipes have to be smaller to cram into a small space, so this puts an increase pressure on the pump, if the water circulation is too low its also defeating the object. If the water circulation + number of passes are well thought out then yes it will cool and maintain a good window of tolerance. In the UK we use Btu (British thermal unit) (1 btu = 1 055.05585 joules) to determine the radiators efficiency, and for heat-sink c/w or celsius to watts dissipated.

Here is a link to anyone wishing to know more about heat-sink design.

This however is for natural convection

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but can be used to examine water cooling but modifying some of the input. Without sounding like a stuck record its very possible to keep a CPU very cool so long as the thermal dynamics are not exceeded. Eg; if the set thermal high is 65°C and you overclock enough to surpass this high then the overall design will not allow to cool below this. My current heat solution keeps my Q6600 at 29°c to 38°c most of the time.

Its easy to design a heat-sink by adjusting fin thickness and height and amount of fins to easily keep an overclocked cpu cool but the main problem is the small 300 x 300 mm surface of an Intel CPU and scaling up to a much larger area to dissipate the heat while keeping the overall design small. After much thinking and a lot more calculations I think so long as your not going to go potty at 4ghz overclocking then I think the Xigmatek AIO-S80DP might be a step in the right direction, even better if the radiators were mountable on the Tower case and 2 fans cooling. Lastly as mentioned more water does not mean better cooling. If the water is pumped very slowly over the CPU plate then the flow will not be sufficient to cool the water present in the CPU block to fast and its still warm when it returns to the CPU block and thus even warmer the next time around until its hot. Then the job of the radiator to cool it before its return to the system via the reservoir. Too fast and not enough time in the radiator/s to cool anyway.

lastly this was posted at 4:26am I' m very tired and I don't doubt I will get replies saying I'm talking gibberish but I had examined CPU cooling a long, long time ago and from memory I hope it will inspire people to look a bit more closely when making a choice of CPU cooler.

All conversions will ultimately end up in kelvin 30°c=303k=86°f 40°c=313k=104°f 50°c=323k=122°f and so on.

Last thought ΔQ = mcΔT
 
Is that taking the rate of heat change away from Fourier's law ? Or atleast taking time out of the equation.

Which evolves around material's heat quo-efficient (ΔQ ?), temperature difference (ΔT ?), surface area ?

Ugh, been along time, brain go hurty.

Either way, give new products a chance.
 
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