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they will have easily surpassed AMD's Alder Lake series processors
I'm not surprised the 7950x bashes the 12900K. Not at all. The KF only has 8 performance cores and threads.
are you surprised that the 7600x beats the 12900K in games?
Does it? no one knows yet. All we are seeing is AMD's cherry picked titles like F1 and etc where they were in front any way.
However, as not to avoid your question? no I would not be surprised. It has higher IPC than the 5000 series, games only really seem to want 6/12c/t and the clock speed is much higher than I thought it would be. Something AMD have been struggling with.
That said? it remains to be seen the actual performance. Because like I say, looking at another thread showing performance it all seems to be their cherry picked games.
i think AMD is aware that blant cheating will not get you anywhere theses days.
but in light of that performance a price tag of 299 dollar is not too high i think.
the 12900k is sold for way over 500$ if i am not wrong.
The 12900K was the fastest in gaming though.
that´s the point.
someone who wants the fastest bought a 12900k + 3090TI.
now he can save a few bucks and is still faster.
in that light i don´t think the 7600x is a bad purchase or too expensive.
the 12600k is as you wrote not much slower than a 12900k but also not much cheaper than the 7600x.
in fact here in germany the cheapest retailer is selling it for 18 euro more than the announced 7600x price.
so compared to the 12600k the value of the 7600x is still better.
i only hope that the reported temps of ES/QS cpus are not entirely correct for retail parts.
they are pretty high.
I think the 7600X value is fine as well.
It's not worth it. You are WAY better off buying a 5600x, or a 12600k, cheaper board and putting the extra into a better GPU.
Just because the quoting on Firefox doesn't work at times for some strange reason?...
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Or just an 5600, seeing it's cheaper and is only -200MHz slower, which doesn't do a whole lot. Essentially 95+% of an 5600X for a nice little money saver to something more important![]()
It's not. It sounds like it is but at the end of the day you need to spend at least (as I type this) £149.99 on DDR5. 4800mhz DDR5, to be exact.
So you need to spend half of what this CPU is set to cost on RAM. And we haven't seen the board prices yet. Which as we know of late have been becoming increasingly ridiculous. That coupled with the fact AMD boards now cost a good chunk more than their Intel counterparts whilst offering far less features? just all pile onto the costs.
Look man, at the end of the day I can absolutely bet you hard cash that any one who bought a 12600 from Intel DID NOT BUY DDR5 with it. Why? because it wasn't good enough to justify that cost on RAM.
Even I, who bought a 12700K bought a DDR4 board and used my existing RAM. Had it not been for that? I would not have bought it. Like F would I pay over half the CPU cost on RAM LOL.
And then we come back to this. AM5 boards are going to be expensive. The DDR5 you need is already expensive, and you are spending all of that on what? a 6 core 12 thread CPU.
It's not worth it. You are WAY better off buying a 5600x, or a 12600k, cheaper board and putting the extra into a better GPU. And it has always been that way, too. There is no point in building an unbalanced rig.
Going back to AMD's board prices? I paid £220 for this.
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Specs are pretty lousy. Two NVME slots. I also paid £220 for this.
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Which not only looks better, and has far more heatsinks and nice bits on, but is specced WAY better, and has four NVME slots.
I dread to think what AM5 boards will cost, but I can pretty much guarantee they will make this £300 CPU totally not worth buying.
300 and 400 boards were amazing value. The 350 and 450 Strix were bloody excellent, both it looks and features. The 500 boards? have all been too expensive. The low end ones doubled in price.