Video Games Are Terrorists!
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Rastalovich
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I don`t personally think under 16s should have a internet`d pc outside of where parents can keep an eye on what they`re doing the whole time.
Now that`s me being ideal. I don`t want kids, so I`ll never have to observe it.
Parents don`t overlook these things, and many similar things, and when things do `happen` - here`s my reasoning - there are lobbies to censor stuff, ban stuff - when frankly if u were taking care of ur kids urself, there would be no need. As a "blame some1 else" society, where there is not acceptance of responsibility for own actions. "Why aren`t the government doing something about this awfull thing?".
Arguably I also don`t think they should have mobile phones. Bit contraversial, but that`s my opinion. Most of the things that happen over the internet can similarly happen over the phones.
I don`t believe in censorship - at-all, I believe in people taking responsibility and being held responsible for their actions or non-actions. To very extreme degrees many may think.
I see the internet being a real shadow of what it once was in times to come.
This guy ? Well he`s a nut anyway, but there are fair points to be made.
Now that`s me being ideal. I don`t want kids, so I`ll never have to observe it.
Parents don`t overlook these things, and many similar things, and when things do `happen` - here`s my reasoning - there are lobbies to censor stuff, ban stuff - when frankly if u were taking care of ur kids urself, there would be no need. As a "blame some1 else" society, where there is not acceptance of responsibility for own actions. "Why aren`t the government doing something about this awfull thing?".
Arguably I also don`t think they should have mobile phones. Bit contraversial, but that`s my opinion. Most of the things that happen over the internet can similarly happen over the phones.
I don`t believe in censorship - at-all, I believe in people taking responsibility and being held responsible for their actions or non-actions. To very extreme degrees many may think.
I see the internet being a real shadow of what it once was in times to come.
This guy ? Well he`s a nut anyway, but there are fair points to be made.
I agree with rast tbh. There are far too many irresponsible parents who do not monitor the websites thier children view, the games they play and in many circumstances, do not even care to question them buying thier children grand theft auto!
I think though, that Mr. Luce's statements, although in general true, miss the fact that many parents do not know, or turn a blind eye to their childrens upbringing, this is why mothers who complain about social work taking thier children annoys me, Women don't have the RIGHT to have children like they seem to think, the problems we face (in the UK atleast) as a society are born out of poorly brought up children, from troubled households.
Mr Luce's comments on technology being a "terrorist" are however, plainly the words of a man blinded by religion. What cause does the root of Islamic Terrorism have? Religion, What of the continuing Israeli and Palisitinial conflicts- Religion. Religion, in my oppinion is the root cause of most of the wars and conflicts we face today.
I think though, that Mr. Luce's statements, although in general true, miss the fact that many parents do not know, or turn a blind eye to their childrens upbringing, this is why mothers who complain about social work taking thier children annoys me, Women don't have the RIGHT to have children like they seem to think, the problems we face (in the UK atleast) as a society are born out of poorly brought up children, from troubled households.
Mr Luce's comments on technology being a "terrorist" are however, plainly the words of a man blinded by religion. What cause does the root of Islamic Terrorism have? Religion, What of the continuing Israeli and Palisitinial conflicts- Religion. Religion, in my oppinion is the root cause of most of the wars and conflicts we face today.
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name='stuartpb' said:
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I think he is talking in terms of possibilities, yet he does seem a bit over the top (as I don't think EVERY video etc is linked to terrorism
)There is a possibility that kids could get onto terrorist propoganda etc, but tbh he seems a bit fanatical. Also I think there is a small possibility that kids will watch media linked with terrorism.
All in all, it seems like another fanatical christian trying to preach and command people how to be good parents. (could be seen as shock tactics altho he seems to have more comedic value than anything else)
Altho as Rasto said, there are some points to be made like control of kids computers, but at the end of the day it's up to the parents to act as they see fit.
Rastalovich
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Reason i say 16 is that at this moment in time, you can join the army and get married (although you aren`t allowed to buy beer, but you can smoke), year after you can kill some1 in a car, vote the year after.
They`re all crazy ages for me. I`d make them all 18, arguably 21. Not just cos I like to wind people up, but I don`t see too much maturity of age and life before then.
But also I believe in police walking the streets instead of skipping by places in their cars to avoid anything (on the way to the chippy where I usually see them). Fat, going by the adopted media`s obesity index thing, coppers should be forced to walk the streets until they`re no longer deemed fat. I consider this being fit for work and the work you are doing. Lets presume they need to chase someone - no chance. But then I want the old rule of them ALL being over 6 foot tall - including wpcs unless they just type. I don`t particularly see the sense in 4 foot 6 wpcs, particularly on a rowdy cardiff night with prop-forward style drunk guys causing a ruckus - of course they call backup - but then why not just use the backup and sack the wpcs ? All tax payers money.
On the other side of things, I`d equip them with cattle-prods. Any stick, any abuse, any1 acting up on the streets - and they have free reign to use them. Guess u could be 4`6 with a cattle prod.
Extreme ideas ? Rant ?
They`re all crazy ages for me. I`d make them all 18, arguably 21. Not just cos I like to wind people up, but I don`t see too much maturity of age and life before then.
But also I believe in police walking the streets instead of skipping by places in their cars to avoid anything (on the way to the chippy where I usually see them). Fat, going by the adopted media`s obesity index thing, coppers should be forced to walk the streets until they`re no longer deemed fat. I consider this being fit for work and the work you are doing. Lets presume they need to chase someone - no chance. But then I want the old rule of them ALL being over 6 foot tall - including wpcs unless they just type. I don`t particularly see the sense in 4 foot 6 wpcs, particularly on a rowdy cardiff night with prop-forward style drunk guys causing a ruckus - of course they call backup - but then why not just use the backup and sack the wpcs ? All tax payers money.
On the other side of things, I`d equip them with cattle-prods. Any stick, any abuse, any1 acting up on the streets - and they have free reign to use them. Guess u could be 4`6 with a cattle prod.
Extreme ideas ? Rant ?
in his hyperthetical story why the hell did he let the pedo into his house?.. video games give entertainent to kids, otherwise they'd be on the streets, and video games imo dont influence what kids do (do kids really go around thinking they'l be able to respawn, or load life?.. nope), (im 16) and have a brother 4 years older than me, so my parents have been less restrictive about what i play on, but im afriad to say but its all the upbringing and parents that truely influences children (not computer games or media)... from a young age (6-9) you can have a fair judge on who's going to be a trouble maker and who's not, i go to a comprehensive, and everyone is pretty nice to everyone, no bulling or anything goes on, but there is a clear divide of wealth and discipline, nearly all of my year will have played on games like gta, but only a percentage of them create crime, and when looking into their familys you find why (brothers are druggies/drug dealers, fathers are misssing or criminals, mothers at work all day, etc etc) trust me this is not an eccageration from my experience it is 90% the upbringing, though a few do slip through the net, so i dont see a correlation with video games and crime....
name='ojrules' said:
Alot of criminals do come from disadvantaged backgrounds but there are many kids from wealthy backgrounds who are screwed up on drugs, alcohol and the crimes associated with it. I come from a working class area and I know alot of my mates are strict with their kids because of the problems in our areas. I am strict with my two kids and my parents weren't wealthy but I was brought up to have respect and they did indeed discipline me.
To say that there is a clear divide between wealth and discipline is incorrect. Just because someone comes from a single parent, or low income family doesn't make them a criminal or a social misfit. Criminals come from all walks of life and to label one segment of society is plain wrong in my opinion.
Cheers,
Stu
ahh yes sorry i kinda associated the wealth and discipline there, i wasnt calling poorer people criminals, or saying that they're more likely to be criminals, but i was focusing on the structure/quality of their familiys... and yes i have to agree on the rich thing there, my comp is in a mixed wealth area, and it's saddeningly funny watching school kids thinking they are "gangstas" and rapping in the playground etc, when you see the same kid bein dropped off by their mom in a merc in the morning,
Okay this is stupid. He is another person trying to control what children believe. He is probably the kind of religous person I totally dislike; the kind that does not respect other people's beliefs. So he thinks that his children will get polluted if they read about homosexuality is not a bad thing on the internet. The internet allows us to really discover who we are; it isn't going to turn us into sexual predators unless we were to become one anyway. I mean, if I were to go on say, a decapitation website (not that I do lol), its not that site's fault if I enjoyed it. Its something to do with me. He is an ignorant man, the kind that believes that the only way to look at it is his (or his religion's) way.
Maybe we should look at it in the way that his religion teaches incest and murder, and that their "savior" spent an awful lot of time with a prostitute. Is it just me, or would that be a worse influence?
Maybe we should look at it in the way that his religion teaches incest and murder, and that their "savior" spent an awful lot of time with a prostitute. Is it just me, or would that be a worse influence?
name='stuartpb' said:Alot of criminals do come from disadvantaged backgrounds but there are many kids from wealthy backgrounds who are screwed up on drugs, alcohol and the crimes associated with it. I come from a working class area and I know alot of my mates are strict with their kids because of the problems in our areas. I am strict with my two kids and my parents weren't wealthy but I was brought up to have respect and they did indeed discipline me.
Just because someone comes from a single parent, or low income family doesn't make them a criminal or a social misfit. Criminals come from all walks of life and to label one segment of society is plain wrong in my opinion.
Cheers,
Stu
Agreed. Tbh OP has offended me a little, because I'm from a single parent family and my mother works freaking hard, yet I have never, and never will commit a crime.
name='Ghaz' said:
hey hey hey... i never said anything about single parent familiys, i was suggesting that a lack of support for the kids/familys, in my experience, seems to make kids more likely to go out and commit crimes... infact if you read my first post PROPERLY you'l see i'm focusing on the fact that children are either being underparented, or there is a bad role model in the family, aka "a brother who is a druggy", seriously i feel like im being made out into a rich snob here, the true focus of my post was about kids coming from "problem families", in which case they are incredibly likely to go and commit crimes, i have said nothign about the working class, nor insinuated them to be criminals, and i havnt even said anything about single mothers...
the only thing that was wrong about my first post was "but there is a clear divide of wealth and discipline", and that, i now see was insinuating that poorer people are more likely to become criminals, or that poorer parents discipline their children less, and i have already apolpgised for that unintended inference
anyways what this person is suggesting is that a bad enviornment makes a bad person.. maybe he should have a lookey over to genesis.. garden of eden.. ooo only 2 people there, both of which have never sinned.. and then they go off get themselves kicked out of the garden of eden.. hmm yeh that really sounds like God bought them up in a dodgy environment 
Rastalovich
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name='Bungral' said:
I thought that was just something supermarkets brought in off there own backs, nothing official.
