UK computer industry future

[JezEngland]

Industry's largly depend on the Governments stratergy.

Recently our PM said "no" to tax cuts for Britain's game development industry. The predicted effect of that is the game developers won't meet the same standards as Europe and further. A british dev team is doing Crysis 2's multiplayer game.

For computer hardware I purchased an EVGA back-plate and Antec sent me some CPU mount bolts, both came from Netherlands. Netherlands government is welcoming the computer industry. We need America to push our government. I see some websites like OC3D, retailers like Aria and little PC shops wich meny struggle to stay open and PC World. The lack of mainstream manufacturers is sad. Like many other topics/industries, Britain's government isn't cutting their cheese, Britain's government isn't helpin and welcoming them. Did you have the thought about the illegal immigrant issue?

Computer manufacturers need to be installed in Britain pronto, the future of Virtual Reality, Science etc is excellent.

Info about this issue is welcome, add some thoughts please? I already thought of throwing a shoe at the PM

 

[arwis]

I'm not British nor UK citizen and I'm not following individual country politics that much but..

The fact that grass in greener on the other side of the fence is false! No it's the same grass. Financial crisis we had couple years ago transformed to economic one and every government is making hard decisions. It's easy to blame if you are not into economics.

Now lets talk about hardware prices in Europe. Been building new rig and made some research on where I could get cheapest parts and conclusion was it's pretty much the same all over the Europe. The price difference was like 50 EU so I just went with local retailer. As for prices compared to US well yes there's huge difference but than US does not have social benefits as we do(Free health care and other stuff) which costs fortune.

Local manufacturers - forget. Taiwan, Singapore, China are the countries for that. Price competition and ROI are just basic reasons why no one investing in local manufacturing. Once we talk about science and science centers both are top notch and they make excellent money. We have a lot of smart people and we have excellent conditions creating perfect work places for them. There's actually some kind of paradox happening right now. Wests relocates all manufacturing to east and all smart people from east comes to wests to work in well developed science centers.

Overall politics is hard to judge and you can debate to death about decisions they make or not.

 

[marsey99]

i know what your saying mate but its not just that we dont make computer componants now, we dont make anything anymore.

we used to be the center of the world in manufactoring, going back to the steam engines thru to around the 1950s but in the past 30 years or so each government has killed that sector going from 1 in 3 working in it to todays less than 1 in 10.

 

[JezEngland]

ok. what does this mean: government has killed that sector going from 1 in 3 working in it to todays less than 1 in 10.

EDIT: I see what you mean, thx

In WW2 BSA (Birmingham Small Arms) made weapons, artillery, bullets etc. Today the factory exists and is called BSA and BSA is now owned by the Spanish GAMO manufacturer making Air rifles mostly. Opportunity not used. A leading Arms manufacturer like BSA should stay British and supply the British Army

Wiki Encyclopedia info: Amstrad is a British electronics company founded in 1968 by Alan Sugar. The name is a contraction of Alan Michael Sugar Trading. It was first listed on the London Stock Exchange in 1980.

During the late 1980s, Amstrad had a substantial share of the PC market in the UK. As of 2006, Amstrad's main business is manufacturing Sky Digital interactive boxes. Amstrad was once a FTSE 100 Index constituent but is now wholly owned by BSkyB.

We have an Amstrad PC in the loft

 

[Mr Muggles]

There does seem to have been some kind of 'agenda' against British manufacturing since WW2.

If it's not the 'Bilderberg' group or some other dark shadowy black ops group X Filest stylee behind it.

It's Tom's fault

 

[JezEngland]

giggle

mm the government relys alot on suffering, i mean selling cigarretts etc for the money. it should be banned. people wcould be healthy and manufacturing PC components etc.

 

[marsey99]

jerome if your a brummy mate you should know better than most, 50 years back i bet almost everybody in your family was either making cars or patrs for them.

how many people round there do now?

 

[JezEngland]

i'm not my Dad is. He lives at Scotland and talks about Kilt making and Baxter's soups

a good trade at Scotland is HGV driving, and we guess most of the good are imported

 

[ionicle]

british manufacturing is apauling, and incidently, none existant at the moment

take cars for example, we used to have a shedload of car manufacturers, and then in 2005, the labour government let rover go.

an example here could have been, that rover should have been nationalised, then the government should have used them to make all the police cars, fire engines, and ambulances, at cost, and then make cars for the public, export them allover the world for the different markets, and who knows, it could have turned a profit, and meant a tax break for us all...

but no the government let them go

as for manufacturing, its simple, we need negitive inflation, we need the value of our currency to go down, so that £1 is worth not much at all

for example, at the moment £1 is about $1.50 or so?

if £1 was worth $0.25, it would make foreign holidays more expensive (people would stay in this country for holidays, thus money wouldnt be lost to abroad)

other countries populations would flock to the UK because it was cheap for holidays

companys would flock here because our currency would be worthless against all others, and they'd invest heavily here, because people wouldnt have to be paid much

but, if it was worked right, £1 for a loaf of bread, could stay at £1 for a loaf of bread

i do business economics at uni, and how nobody has managed to see this thus far in government is beyond me.

 

[marsey99]

i agree ionicle but at the same time i think if the gbp ever fell that far we would lose it and join the euro.

after whats happened with other countrys in that idk if it would be a good thing for us or not :|

 

[JezEngland]

Microsoft has the money, come save us

 

[ionicle]

thats the last thing we want, we have the conservatives in ....

they dont like the EU, and nor do i

and they dont like the euro, and nor do i...

we should just chop ourselves off from europe

and i have no sympathy for ireland who did it to themselves joining the EU, its a failed idea, its just all going to blow up in everyone's face eventually...

 

[JezEngland]

I looked a PayPal and it's main page has an updating number of users feature. look: https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/helpscr?cmd=_logout

this planet is busy

 

[ionicle]

unfortunatly paypal in my opinion is the scourge of all evil.

 

[SLIEuro]

thats the last thing we want, we have the conservatives in ....

they dont like the EU, and nor do i

and they dont like the euro, and nor do i...

we should just chop ourselves off from europe

and i have no sympathy for ireland who did it to themselves joining the EU, its a failed idea, its just all going to blow up in everyone's face eventually...

The thing is David Cameron promised us a referendum on the EU, but has not kept his word

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[ruthless_villain]

unfortunatly paypal in my opinion is the scourge of all evil.

that i agree with, thieving pricks.