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This is the 7870 joker review.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiM10G7UyOg
Notice he's comparing it to a 7950, and often mentions it beating the club3d 7950 as well.

Well, this is the problem. ---- On the 7870 vid, he has the 3dmark 11 benchmarks up. The ''supposed'' 7950 score? Around 6,000. The 7870 joker score? Around 8,000.


Why is this a problem?

Because in THIS video of the club3d 7950,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcKWzVkgspc

The 3Dmark11 score is literally, "over nine thousand''. It's in the 10,000's, and trades blows with the gtx 680 that is overclocked as well.


So noticing these discrepencies, i am assuming he mistakenly pulled up 7850 results, and read it as 7950. Those scores in the joker card review seem to fit with where a 7850 would be, and that is dangerously close to what my 560 scores, which is another dead giveaway that something is amiss..

What do you guys think? Should we burn tim at the stake? Or is he right?
 
dha07 said:
Rich fail. Its tinytom
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This :p

Also in the 7950 video you've linked he has scored an awesome card that overclocks like a beast and that is the reason for it's massive scores. I'm pretty certain from memory that he maxed out the overclock program at 1.2GHz on the GPU ;) So that score is not a standard score for a 7950 card and shouldn't really be used for general comparisons.
 
tiny timothy

Dragon_Orb said:
This :p

Also in the 7950 video you've linked he has scored an awesome card that overclocks like a beast and that is the reason for it's massive scores. I'm pretty certain from memory that he maxed out the overclock program at 1.2GHz on the GPU ;) So that score is not a standard score for a 7950 card and shouldn't really be used for general comparisons.
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but how could a 300mhz oc double the score of a 7950? I still think he accidnetaly read 7850 results :|
 
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Rich_ said:
This is the 7870 joker review.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiM10G7UyOg
Notice he's comparing it to a 7950, and often mentions it beating the club3d 7950 as well.

Well, this is the problem. ---- On the 7870 vid, he has the 3dmark 11 benchmarks up. The ''supposed'' 7950 score? Around 6,000. The 7870 joker score? Around 8,000.


Why is this a problem?

Because in THIS video of the club3d 7950,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcKWzVkgspc

The 3Dmark11 score is literally, "over nine thousand''. It's in the 10,000's, and trades blows with the gtx 680 that is overclocked as well.


So noticing these discrepencies, i am assuming he mistakenly pulled up 7850 results, and read it as 7950. Those scores in the joker card review seem to fit with where a 7850 would be, and that is dangerously close to what my 560 scores, which is another dead giveaway that something is amiss..

What do you guys think? Should we burn tim at the stake? Or is he right?
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Those are OC scores sooo uhhh yeah you fail

Think he mentioned a billion times already that at stock its just run of the mill.
 
I think the Joker is a great card, to say that if it was available when I bought the 7950, I would have gotten the Joker instead and saved 60 quid. Mind you, the 7950 is still the faster card, especially in higher resolutions, but at 1080p the Joker is really close, as Mr. Tiny mentioned.
 
Rich_ said:
tiny timothy



but how could a 300mhz oc double the score of a 7950? I still think he accidnetaly read 7850 results :|
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Not sure about the AMD card's and how a overclock affects the scores but, on a beta graphics benchmarking tool called Catzilla my stock speed SLI'd GTX 680's scored around 15,000 points.

I increased the gpu core speed and ram speed by around 200mhz or less and my score went up to over 17,000, and whilst it's not double it's still a big improvement.

Benchmark software will either get better or worse scores when running a overclock, it's abit hit and miss I have found.

However TTL did not fail because he mentions they are stock scores etc.
 
If you listen to the review properly I say the scores were from an orignal 7950 aka the HIS.

The Club3D 7950 scored worse at stock than any of the others...... But overclocked it goes like a train!
 
Tiny Tomithy Lougan i still cant wrap my head around double performance from 300mhz. My 560 goes from about 55'ish-60'ish fps from a 100 mhz boost, and thats kinda generous estimate actually. and for the stunningly sexy gentlemen with the 2 680's, you got a 1,000 per card increase on a 200mhz increase, this 7950 apparently got a 5,000 boost from a 300mhz increase :|
 
Rich_ said:
Tiny Tomithy Lougan i still cant wrap my head around double performance from 300mhz. My 560 goes from about 55'ish-60'ish fps from a 100 mhz boost, and thats kinda generous estimate actually. and for the stunningly sexy gentlemen with the 2 680's, you got a 1,000 per card increase on a 200mhz increase, this 7950 apparently got a 5,000 boost from a 300mhz increase :|
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You can not directly compare gains from a different architecture.

One of my 480's at 880mhz is on par or faster than a stock 7950, but if i OC a 7950, it will beat the 480 handily...

A 560Ti is not comparable, even to a 480 (which is quite a lot faster)

I think you should get a little more knowledge and listen deeper.

I do have one qualm for Tom though, my single GTX 480 Heaven Results are beating the 7870 TLE and 7950...

However, in 3Dmark, it is literally neck and neck with the 7870 (200 point difference).
 
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