This is going to be my first build!

Well I have nothing against the GPU either, and I have nothing to object, you picked brilliant stuff. Personally, if I was on a tight budget I would stick with a much less expensive 3570k and a decent 1155 motherboard. That's what I would chose for gaming. The Ivy on the 1155 socket is more than enough for gaming I'm sure you agree.
 
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Well I have nothing against the GPU either, and I have nothing to object, you picked brilliant stuff. Personally, if I was on a tight budget I would stick with a much less expensive 3570k and a decent 1155 motherboard. That's what I would chose for gaming. The Ivy on the 1155 socket is more than enough for gaming I'm sure you agree.
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I agree, I personally have a gd55 from msi and a 3570k myself

In that case would change the motherboard to something like a ROG Maximus V Formula or Extreme
 
tg31270 said:
I agree, I personally have a gd55 from msi and a 3570k myself

In that case would change the motherboard to something like a ROG Maximus V Formula or Extreme
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Good choice of motherboards, they are both good boards. With one of these and a 3570k you wouldn't need anything else but a good GPU, an SSD and atleast... ATLEAST 4 Gigs of ram and you'd be very happy. Anyone would, I think.
 
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The options seem to be vast. I am going to start researching the prices of all these parts.and components. What do you guys think about the trooper case vs. the cosmos 2? I really want to put leds and stuff in the case, but the cosmos only has the solid side panels I believe.
 
Zaker172 said:
Yes, I do plan on overclocking, nothing extreme but I want to give it a try.
About the PSU.. The thing is.. The local vendors have a really small selection of PSU's from good brands.. If I could I'd get a HX650 or even some quality 600w PSU.
Also, I adedd the prices as they are in Latvia at the top! Thanks for these fast responses.
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Regarding the PSU. I have one that most would call overkill for my rig, but I did purchase based on the fact that it will never go past a 60-65% percent load, which is the sweetspot in terms of efficiency and it also stays nice and quiet. The PSU you are getting has to deal with about the same amount of draw as mine does, so I would have to say get that one, it will help in the future, and even if it is overkill, at least you will never hear the fan on the thing.
 
You'd probably never hear the fan on less powerful one either cause of the same thing you were talking about "Efficiency", Less power draw, means less heat... less fan speed.
If by "Trooper" you mean the Cooler Master Trooper, then... yes... why not? It has a side pannel, but the Cosmos 2 is also cool looking. You want one with a sidepannel?
I'll look something up for you.

*UPDATE*

Ok, so I looked up some cases for you with sidepannels.

CaseLabs These people make really nice hardcore enthuziast cases. They disappoint some people on the aesthetic side of things but they are very practical and the size of one of those is prett impressive. And you can also choose different options to be custom made, like color, the size of the window, more fan mountings added etc. I would recommend one.

SilverStone Fortress Series FT01-BW Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Uni-body Computer Case

LIAN LI PC-V750WX Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case

SilverStone Temjin Series TJ10-BW Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case

SilverStone Temjin Series TJ07B-W-USB3.0 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case with 4X USB3.0 ports (Black)

I will probably be adding more to this list.
 
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800D is a mediocre watercooler and quite a bad air cooler. A Switch 810/ Cosmos II/ TJ07 or TJ11 would be a better option imho.

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RAM above 1600MHz does still have a point, its above 2133 when that point fades. I'd suggest either 1866 or 2133 MHz RAM for a build like that. Quad channel kit, of course :)
 
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Feronix said:
800D is a mediocre watercooler and quite a bad air cooler. A Switch 810/ Cosmos II/ TJ07 or TJ11 would be a better option imho.

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RAM above 1600MHz does still have a point, its above 2133 when that point fades. I'd suggest either 1866 or 2133 MHz RAM for a build like that. Quad channel kit, of course :)
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100% correct. With ram prices the way they are today there is just no logic in getting only 4GB of ram. 16GB (2x8GB) of 2133 is so affordable that after I get a Corsair H100i squared away I'm going to dump this 8GB kit I've got and upgrade to 16GB, then 32GB at which time I will run all my games from a ram drive.

I can't see why more hardcore gamers arent doing it, as a ram dive is the best way to get uberly awesome performance from your gaming experience. (Coupled with a nice CPU and GPU of course.)
 
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100% correct. With ram prices the way they are today there is just no logic in getting only 4GB of ram. 16GB (2x8GB) of 2133 is so affordable that after I get a Corsair H100i squared away I'm going to dump this 8GB kit I've got and upgrade to 16GB, then 32GB at which time I will run all my games from a ram drive.

I can't see why more hardcore gamers arent doing it, as a ram dive is the best way to get uberly awesome performance from your gaming experience. (Coupled with a nice CPU and GPU of course.)
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I'm not 100% convinced with your theory. From what I've seen from tests is that ram frequency isn't the most important thing a gamer should focus on. Here is one of the review examples about ram frequencies you can read. it's better to invest the extra money in a better gpu or perhaps cpu. It's one when we use the computer for "work" or heavy jobs that we need more and faster ram.
 
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Increased memory speed is only really noticeable in gaming when used with amd trinity apu's.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2106/1/
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Firstly, what your pointing to is only for amd cpus, and how many of them are there today compared to intel when it comes to gaming? < 50% That means 50% of the people wont be benefiting from it in the same degree.:amdwar:

Secondly, I would still prefer using the money on a better gpu, and if I really wanted a faster ram, then I would just oc the ram on my own. Right now, I'm thinking of buying 1600Mhz rams and if I was in need of faster ram, i would oc them to 1866 or maybe 2000.

Anyway those are my thoughts :boink:
 
Link was to show that in certain instances memory speed does have in impact on gaming. Even if it was a trinity apu.

Ivy chips love high memory btw. XMP'd 2133 kits are at a real sweet price point these days as well.
 
To me its kind of like this: if you can get a 500GB HDD for $59, or a TB HDD for $65, why wouldnt you just spend the extra $6 for twice as much storage, whether you need it or not? it's better than ending up buying 2x500GB at $59 each should the first one get full.

Same goes with ram. Why not spend an extra $5 to get ram you know is faster? If someone is really that worried about $5 they shouldnt be doing a computer build or upgrade to start with. They should be buying groceries or paying rent.

The intel core i3 3220 is $119 in my area. The i5 3570k goes for $227. The base speed of the 3570k is only 100mhz faster than the 3220. However, it has twice as much L3 cache which lets it think faster. It also has a turbo speed of 3.8Ghz

The fact is the differences are rather small, but youll see the majority of members of this and other nerd forums own the unlocked K versions of cpu's. Why? Because we dont mind paying an extra $100 for more performance. In the case of a 3770k, make that $200, or roughly three times as much.

Is it really neccessary or is it more psychological knowing you have 'the best'?
 
I think anyone should do a computer build weather they are worried about $5 or 5 cents. The fact that one's worried about his kid not getting the best milk in the morning doesn't make him less of an enthusiast and unworthy of a build even if it's weaker. In my opinion $100 is quite some money, and if we'd just put our feet on the ground again we'd notice that some have $100 to add and buy a 3570K some have only $100 to live 2 weeks. We don't mind paying the extra, but this extra doesn't grow in trees brothers.
 
Ok so this is what the computer ended up being.
CM Storm Striker case
Ultra X4 750 watt Power supply modular
Asus p9x79 deluxe Motherboard
intel 3820 2011 proc
2 evga gtx 660ti 2gig
OCZ vertex 512SSD
1 TB WD blue
H100 cooler push pull config
32 gigs black vengeance ram

Still plan on getting some lights and such for it but this thing screams and my son loves it and loved building it with me. Thanks for the advice guys.
 
I agree, why would you do that? For that sort of money you can get a single 7970 or gtx 680. Also, way too much RAM. PSU is really iffy as well. Did you start ordering stuff? If you order components from that list you're gonna have a bad time (too lazy to look for the picture). 2011 is pretty useless in gaming as well. Basically, scrap all that and get a 3770K, 16GB of whatever RAM you want, as long as it's a brand name, whatever mobo you want that has all the features you're looking for, same with the case, a corsair 650-750w PSU, 7950 or 7870 tahiti le and you're set for the next 6 months, at least. Also, a lot cheaper.
*EDIT You actually bought that? Wow.
 
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