The ultimate CPU chiller - Cooler Master reveals MasterLiquid ML360 Sub-Zero EVO

[WYP]

Cooler Master unveils second generation Thermoelectric CPU chiller.



Read more about Cooler Master's MasterLiquid ML360 Sub-Zero EVO sub-ambient CPU chiller.

 

[Warchild]

Whats the power draw on this though?

We have seen this done by EKWB and that can pull up to 210W alone when unregulated.

 

[dazbobaby]

Is this the old problem of turn on the cooler, 10 minutes later turn on the PC?


I have no issue pushing the boundaries, but who REALLY needs this kind of cooling?
Do they want it, or do they need it?

 

[AlienALX]

Whats the power draw on this though?

We have seen this done by EKWB and that can pull up to 210W alone when unregulated.

It will be high. It is a peltier, and they create tons of waste heat that also needs to be cooled. Waste heat = wasted power.

Funny how we are heading into a world where power is critical, yet they just keep finding ways for use to use tons of it.

 

[Warchild]

It will be high. It is a peltier, and they create tons of waste heat that also needs to be cooled. Waste heat = wasted power.

Funny how we are heading into a world where power is critical, yet they just keep finding ways for use to use tons of it.

That was the whole point I was leading up to. EK are open about the power draw, but then EK is not available as mainstream when compared to Coolermaster.

I wonder how Cooler "Master" would shift these units if they show a power draw of 300W or more.

Pretty sure Peltier will need its own software too in addition to the RGB/Fan control etc.

 

[Dicehunter]

Imagine a 13900K, 4090 and this, You're looking at a 1200w PSU to be on the safe side, Yikes

 

[AlienALX]

Imagine a 13900K, 4090 and this, You're looking at a 1200w PSU to be on the safe side, Yikes

Yeah it is extremely dumb. "Let's use 300w to cool this 300w CPU". You are still creating a ton of waste heat, and waste heat comes from wasted leccy.

That was the whole point I was leading up to. EK are open about the power draw, but then EK is not available as mainstream when compared to Coolermaster.

I wonder how Cooler "Master" would shift these units if they show a power draw of 300W or more.

Pretty sure Peltier will need its own software too in addition to the RGB/Fan control etc.

Yeah tbh the hefty price hike will mostly be to include the software, as peltiers cost peanuts.


It's ironic the hot side will need cooling LOL. "Would you like cooling on your cooling sir?"

 

[Warchild]

Imagine a 13900K, 4090 and this, You're looking at a 1200w PSU to be on the safe side, Yikes

its like we go through cycles. We went from huge Dies, high power draw (going back 10years when the power draw was considered high), High heat...

Then we progressed to efficiency, low temps, low TDP etc etc, and now we have flipped back to raw power without too much concern on the power draw. Ok, "we" are concerned about the power pulled from the devices but from a design point of view it seemed to be a secondary thought.

 

[dazbobaby]

200W officially
I sort of hoped it would be a refrigeration unit, but it's peltier.


Works well in a portable 12v fridge, and low power too, but to cool a massive CPU, not so much
https://www.coolermaster.com/catalo...s/masterliquid-ml360-sub-zero/#specifications

 

[AlienALX]

200W officially
I sort of hoped it would be a refrigeration unit, but it's peltier.


Works well in a portable 12v fridge, and low power too, but to cool a massive CPU, not so much
https://www.coolermaster.com/catalo...s/masterliquid-ml360-sub-zero/#specifications

TBH it doesn't matter what it is. The laws of science will still make it cost a packet to run.

 

[dazbobaby]

TBH it doesn't matter what it is. The laws of science will still make it cost a packet to run.

If I'm not mistaken, can't you just overdrive peltier for more cooling?

 

[AlienALX]

If I'm not mistaken, can't you just overdrive peltier for more cooling?

IDK. That said, if you can? then you would over drive the heat output. Remember - for every cold you make you also make hot. And that heat needs dealing with, and is literally waste electricity.