WYP
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The prices of AMD's RX Vega 64 has increased by almost £100
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RickPlaysWarr
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I can't really blame the vendors. Its basic economics when something is in short supply. I personally won't buy at the inflated prices so have to wait if I intend to try vega. It would probably only go in my daughters rig to replace her RX480 card.
Sad that some of the people that want the card for enjoyment and not just profit are being squeezed out of the market
Sad that some of the people that want the card for enjoyment and not just profit are being squeezed out of the market
WYP
News Guru
Yeah, it is simply the laws of economics at work here. Just a shame that there isn't enough RX Vega GPUs to go around.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Vega 56 looks pretty promising so far from what I've seen
MacLeod
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They're $600-700 on Newegg right now US and all out of stock. $50-150 more than a GTX 1080 despite being slower and using almost twice as much power. Damn this sucks. I was hoping for some competition for Nvidia but guess we'll have to wait a generation or two. Good news is despite AMD being no threat, Nvidia still seems to bring it every new round of cards and don't play the Intel game of 2-4% performance increases every time.
AlienALX
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Well of late the prices have dropped here in the UK. The 1080 can now be had for £449 and has been that price for about a month. No reason to buy Vega at all in the UK unless you hate Nvidia that much. Having said that this is nothing like Fury X launch at all. People just didn't buy it. Vega? selling like hot cakes, even to gamers !
I reckon Ryzen has really saved AMD's balls tbh. People are actually happy to buy a totally inferior card !
Fair play, I don't want to see AMD go under. Navi looks like it's going to be good. Very good even, so I can forgive them for this.
But yeah, I could have paid the same for a Vega AIO card as I paid for the Titan XP.
Navi looks good so I am glad they may stay in the race. I wouldn't want to see them call an end to GPUs completely because then we would be screwed. So yeah, I am glad they are selling out. But I wouldn't touch one with a 80ft pole !
I reckon Ryzen has really saved AMD's balls tbh. People are actually happy to buy a totally inferior card !
Fair play, I don't want to see AMD go under. Navi looks like it's going to be good. Very good even, so I can forgive them for this.
But yeah, I could have paid the same for a Vega AIO card as I paid for the Titan XP.
Navi looks good so I am glad they may stay in the race. I wouldn't want to see them call an end to GPUs completely because then we would be screwed. So yeah, I am glad they are selling out. But I wouldn't touch one with a 80ft pole !
AlienALX
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AMD don't have a choice. They decided on a big die with HBM2, now they need to recoup the cost. So vote with your hands and your wallet. If you think it's too expensive then let them know and they won't make any more of them.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Uh... What were you expecting? Coming from the Fury X to Titan XP killer? All at lower power consumption? That's just naive?
Both cards are good. The 56 is fantastic and destroys the 1070 in basically every title. The 64 can compete with the 1080 but it looks like it depends on the game from what I can see.
I don't even see how heat is an argument. It's a reference design?
Power consumption is not as bad as people think. AMD made it worse by saying 1200 watt PSU. You'd be fine with a 650 or 750 depending on what else you have.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
The 56 is cheaper and faster than a 1070?
With way more power, heat, and a crappy cooler so you almost *need* water (unless leaf blowers soothe you), etc. I'd take the 1070 in a heartbeat. Especially if the price drops. I've been seeing some Nvidia sales lately (ie 1080TI for under $800CDN, 1070 under $600, etc). If that trend continues, I see no logical reason to spend money on Vega with all its shortcomings.
EDIT: I will give you this though: if AMD partners release a 56 at a decent price with good cooling, that could be a serious win.
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Vega 56 is not really that bad with temps though. It's kinda loud sure but once we have aftermarket cards it won't be a problem.
Vega 64 is hot and very loud. Water helps obviously but gonna need some serious aftermarket designs to keep those cards quiet
Excalabur50
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The one thing that AMD have in their favour over Nvidia is the compute performance stomps them, if you are running programs like premier then AMD is really the way to go
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
That's a good point, GCN has always been a strong compute card
MacLeod
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That's true but how many people buy GPU's for their computer performance. That's a real question, I honestly don't know. I would think it's a pretty small minority.
I gotta think the vast majority of us are wanting it for its gaming performance tho and in that regard it's a dud. Slower than a 1080 but costing more with more heat and nearly double the power draw. I don't even think the 56 is worth much. It trades wins with the 1070, is about the same price but again that heat and power problem.
Aside from people with Freesync monitors, I really can't think of a reason to buy any Vega card over it's Nvidia counterpart.....and I'm a pretty big AMD fanboy!
Excalabur50
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Sure ATM they are trading blows with their Nvidia counterparts but give the drivers a chance to mature and they will be a good card I think and you can't really judge prices either due to the stupid mining craze pushing the prices up and I too am a little disappointed with their overall performance and the fact that they chew more power but even that might? improve with drivers too and if you don't overclock the snot out of them and undervolt them then they are pretty good.
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