The Denuvo DRM bypass has been fixed

Yeah, but somebody cracked Tomb Raider for real this time. No bypass apparently. It's only a matter of time before other Denuvo titles are cracked.

This is basically history repeating itself. These guys come up with a new anti-piracy measure, it takes hackers a few years to break it down and when they do it's smooth sailing for pirates. Same thing happened back in 2004 I think.
 
Oh god, this is such an insult to injury.
2 days ago pirates found an exploit and managed to make a bypass in denuvo, weekend passed and the people at denovo updated and put a stop to the exploit. And now just few hours later the pirate group "CONSPIR4CY" cracked the brand new version of denuvo, and I dont mean a simple exploit, a real "old school" copy/paste crack.
 
Yeah, but somebody cracked Tomb Raider for real this time. No bypass apparently. It's only a matter of time before other Denuvo titles are cracked.

This is basically history repeating itself. These guys come up with a new anti-piracy measure, it takes hackers a few years to break it down and when they do it's smooth sailing for pirates. Same thing happened back in 2004 I think.

Denuvo constantly changes itself at a low level. See also the five or more cracks for Mad Max that all stopped working at set points in the game.

Without Denuvo you lose a lump of the game. And that lump is encrypted and constantly checks your hardware in order to work.

Denuvo also is not finite. The team coding it are constantly changing it so that one crack does not fit all. By the time these games are cracked the ship has already sailed IMO.

You'd have to be a right squeaker to wait for months for a game all of your friends are playing.

As I've said elsewhere there's no excuse to steal games any more. If they're pants you have recourse

BTW let's also not forget that these 'cracks' for the three games 'cracked' lately were no such thing. They were a back door that's been closed
 
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Denuvo also is not finite. The team coding it are constantly changing it so that one crack does not fit all. By the time these games are cracked the ship has already sailed IMO.
We don't really know how it works, but according to some of the people who tried to crack it it's essentially the same thing as the last thing these guys made only in 64bit which is apparently a big issue for hackers because they don't have the necessary tools to properly crack it. Maybe they finally have them.

Whatever, it remains to be seen I guess. I like all the drama though. It's never a dull day with Denuvo. I remember when Russian pirates tried to launch a smear campaign against it claiming that it kills SSD's :D
But this is fun. Denuvo guys get to feed their families by having a job, executives get to feel like they've done something meaningful against pirates, hackers get to test their skills, pirates get to feel like they're fighting "the man" and I get to enjoy the show. Everybody wins in a way.
 
I dont want ppl to hack denuvo.. Just dont want it to happen at all. It will happen no doubt.. But i dont want it to happen.
i want a nice anti piracy thing that isnt hacked that you dont have to always be online for.
Then the game devs wont keep lying saying they dont want to make pc games because of captain pugwash and other pirates.
And given consoles are not actually impossible to pirate on, and infact once done properly then its done for all games not just one. It would hopefully make game devs develop for the pc 1st then just dumb down and port over to consoles.

Provided its not massivly intrusive bloat ware that cripples a pc and demands a constant internet connection i say good.
Back in the day you had a instruction manual and then the game would ask you to enter some random things that were printed on some random pages..
And that worked just fine. Then the internet could share all those books and so that was useless, then you needed the cd in the drive, but you could just edit the registry so it thought the cd drive was the install directory. Then they made it so You really had to have the cd.. so ppl started making tiny images and mounting them or burning them..
after that you had all kinds of horrible stuff like securom which stopped actuall owners playing. that was hacked and it just got more and more intrusive, then they decided always online was the way to go, and ppl cant play when servers are down or when they shut them..
its just getting stupid. So can ppl stop craking the games before they make it so you can only play if you are at the devs house and they are home.
 
shambles1980

Most people dont want to plunge 60 ‎€ for 3-4hour campain... I bought my fair share of games in my life and i rarely regret any purchase, but we all know that one or two games that were just.. Wow did i really spend 60 ‎€ in this? And besides, most of the people that pirate these games, buy them after they finish, just so they can support the developers. People intentionally not buying these games, just because of denuvo just seems like a big loss for everybody.. Just look at fallout.. DRM free, yet sold millions of copies, just because a lot of people enjoyed the game, including myself.
 
shambles1980

Most people dont want to plunge 60 ‎€ for 3-4hour campain... I bought my fair share of games in my life and i rarely regret any purchase, but we all know that one or two games that were just.. Wow did i really spend 60 ‎€ in this? And besides, most of the people that pirate these games, buy them after they finish, just so they can support the developers. People intentionally not buying these games, just because of denuvo just seems like a big loss for everybody.. Just look at fallout.. DRM free, yet sold millions of copies, just because a lot of people enjoyed the game, including myself.

Only in a dream world, I would say a few just try b4 buying the majority don't bother buying after they pirate it
 
shambles1980

Most people dont want to plunge 60 ‎€ for 3-4hour campain... I bought my fair share of games in my life and i rarely regret any purchase, but we all know that one or two games that were just.. Wow did i really spend 60 ‎€ in this? And besides, most of the people that pirate these games, buy them after they finish, just so they can support the developers. People intentionally not buying these games, just because of denuvo just seems like a big loss for everybody.. Just look at fallout.. DRM free, yet sold millions of copies, just because a lot of people enjoyed the game, including myself.

just don't buy it and don't pirate, if you cant afford or don't want to pay the release day price then wait and get it on sale.
if you just have to have it straight away, then pay the money.. It is how it works, if people dont pay the early price then they will lower it. because they do actually need to sell the things to be able to make more games.

as for fallout 4 sales "which you imply are better than doom because it is drm free, and doom isnt"

about 1/2 of all fallout 4 pc sales were day one or pre order sales.
So thats 50% of the sales done without any one knowing if the game is any good, "i do note you also state that the sales are good because the game is good"

but 50% of all the pc sales are nothing to do with it being a good game or drm free it was just we were all looking forward to it for so long. "years" and honestly in comparison to new vegas it just wasnt a good game at all.
if i could have refunded my pre order after i played through the game i would.
doom on the other hand is following a rather mediocre game. and some bad press over the pre release beta.
but it is still selling about 10k copys a day on average now, "on steam alone"
you also chose a record breaking day 1 sales game "fallout 4" to compare to a game that isnt doing as well as you would expect..
So lets have a look at overwatch.. which does have Denuvo and 10million players.. ~3million more than fallout 4.. and it hasnt been out as long.. I think i can see why you dint chose overwatch as your example..
because it kind of blows your argument out of the water.
 
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We don't really know how it works, but according to some of the people who tried to crack it it's essentially the same thing as the last thing these guys made only in 64bit which is apparently a big issue for hackers because they don't have the necessary tools to properly crack it. Maybe they finally have them.

Whatever, it remains to be seen I guess. I like all the drama though. It's never a dull day with Denuvo. I remember when Russian pirates tried to launch a smear campaign against it claiming that it kills SSD's :D
But this is fun. Denuvo guys get to feed their families by having a job, executives get to feel like they've done something meaningful against pirates, hackers get to test their skills, pirates get to feel like they're fighting "the man" and I get to enjoy the show. Everybody wins in a way.

They do know how it works they just don't know what to do about it.

Look how long it took to crack Sky SD. And then look at Sky HD which even after all these years remains undefeated.

The guys writing Denuvo are the 1337 dude. They've got an algorithm that's so good that even when you fully understand it and know what it's doing you're almost powerless to stop it.

Most h4xxORs are hobbyist bedroom coders. Who would pay them wages to make it a full time job?

As I've said previously by the time these games are cracked the game is old news, what with gamers being the fickle bunch they are.
 
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