The AMD RX 480 may have a reference only launch

[WYP]

A member of OCUK staff has stated that the AMD RX 480 will have a reference only launch, saying that AMD has "nailed the cooler this time".



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[xnax2802]

Uh oh.... I don't care if they nailed the cooler, I'm not putting red parts in my PC

 

[NeverBackDown]

Rather have a Nitro cooler.. Guess I may wait then

 

[W1tness]

I was planning on waiting until August anyway.

 

[SeekaX]

AMD just can't learn a lesson eh. It doesn't even matter if the ref cooler is any good or not, stop forcing that thing onto people. GTX1070 just edged ahead again.

 

[NeverBackDown]

AMD just can't learn a lesson eh. It doesn't even matter if the ref cooler is any good or not, stop forcing that thing onto people. GTX1070 just edged ahead again.

Yeah because they didn't have a reference only launch either. It also neither competes with the 1070 so reference or not that doesn't matter

 

[SeekaX]

Yeah because they didn't have a reference only launch either. It also neither competes with the 1070 so reference or not that doesn't matter

I don't like the GTX1070 releasing reference only either, but at least i know that the GTX1070 reference cooler is good and aftermarket cards are only delayed by two weeks. With the 290x it took months because AMD was being stubborn, despite their cooler being utter garbage. Whether this one is going to be good i don't know, but i'm pretty sure i'd rather not have two of them for CF, you said so yourself as well. And even if the non reference cards show up in less than a month, that's one month of me being able to pick up a non reference 1070 already, considering that i'm not a fan of multi GPU setups in general and i'm not really willing to wait another month that shifts my focus back to the 1070, regardless of the slight bump in performance 480 CF might offer.
Of course it competes with the 1070, two 480s cost roughly the same and will most likely perform slightly better. I wouldn't even care about this card if it weren't for CF.

 

[NeverBackDown]

I don't like the GTX1070 releasing reference only either, but at least i know that the GTX1070 reference cooler is good and aftermarket cards are only delayed by two weeks. With the 290x it took months because AMD was being stubborn, despite their cooler being utter garbage. Whether this one is going to be good i don't know, but i'm pretty sure i'd rather not have two of them for CF, you said so yourself as well. And even if the non reference cards show up in less than a month, that's one month of me being able to pick up a non reference 1070 already, considering that i'm not a fan of multi GPU setups in general and i'm not really willing to wait another month that shifts my focus back to the 1070, regardless of the slight bump in performance 480 CF might offer.
Of course it competes with the 1070, two 480s cost roughly the same and will most likely perform slightly better. I wouldn't even care about this card if it weren't for CF.

I say that because it's preference for me and I have good airflow and don't care about a couple degree difference.

Still doesn't compete with one. If you want a single card you obviously know what you already are getting. The only reasons these are considered for Xfire is there price and in the cases where it won't work, is still very capable. People are willing to spend that money for the cases where it does work because they know it's still capable alone. And in the end if this cooler is more than capable of keeping it cool and allowing for a lot of OC room and still be quiet. Then it doesn't really matter. AIBs will only make it more quiet and cool and probably won't effect maximum OCs

 

[SeekaX]

I say that because it's preference for me and I have good airflow and don't care about a couple degree difference.

Still doesn't compete with one. If you want a single card you obviously know what you already are getting. The only reasons these are considered for Xfire is there price and in the cases where it won't work, is still very capable. People are willing to spend that money for the cases where it does work because they know it's still capable alone. And in the end if this cooler is more than capable of keeping it cool and allowing for a lot of OC room and still be quiet. Then it doesn't really matter. AIBs will only make it more quiet and cool and probably won't effect maximum OCs

So you don't care about the couple degrees difference? Then why aren't you getting reference cards? Or are you saying that you want to get the Nitro only because it looks better, not because it performs better? A little confused.

"It doesn't compete because i say so". The setup costs 1070 money and it performs in the 1070-1080 category. That's competition.
The xfire performance is the main selling point of this card in the enthusiast market right now, if you want 1070-1080 performance and you pay 1070 money you aren't going to be fine when xfire doesn't work because the single card is still capable, i certainly wouldn't be okay with knowing that half of my investment is idling.
I don't care about maximum OCs, i care about silence and low temps, something non reference cards are better at than reference cards. That is an advantage the 1070 has over 480CF for the time where the 480 will be reference only, which happens to align with the timeframe i am in the market for a 1070 or two 480s.

1070 pros:
Cooler
Quieter
No multi GPU issues
Less power consumption

480CF pros:
Probably better performance
Maybe better price/performance
I never had a multi GPU setup and want to experience the horror first hand

You see how this would be a closer call if the 480 wasn't reference only? I've already delayed the upgrade because i wanted to see what AMD is offering and because i don't really want a FE card. I'm not willing to add another month to that just to wait for the aftermarket 480s.

Regardless of all of that, i don't think there's much to argue about reference only releases being stupid and AMD being the ones who have suffered from making that decision in the past and hence should've learned a lesson.

 

[Dawelio]

I'm not willing to add another month to that just to wait for the aftermarket 480s.

Then don't?... You seem to already have answered your own question(s) and made up your mind regarding it.

So stop whining already...

 

[SeekaX]

Then don't?... You seem to already have answered your own question(s) and made up your mind regarding it.

So stop whining already...

Criticizing poor decision making isn't whining. This is a forum, it's for sharing opinions, if you aren't interested in mine that is your right, but that doesn't diminish my right to share it.
My opinion isn't made up, else i wouldn't have bothered posting a list of arguments for each setup. My opinion will be made up when i see legitimate benchmarks, if the 480CF performance suffices that will be my choice, all this changes is that i would've been willing to get the CF setup with a smaller performance gap if the 480 wouldn't release reference only.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Criticizing poor decision making isn't whining. This is a forum, it's for sharing opinions, if you aren't interested in mine that is your right, but that doesn't diminish my right to share it.
My opinion isn't made up, else i wouldn't have bothered posting a list of arguments for each setup. My opinion will be made up when i see legitimate benchmarks, if the 480CF performance suffices that will be my choice, all this changes is that i would've been willing to get the CF setup with a smaller performance gap if the 480 wouldn't release reference only.

My decision making is my choice and you don't have to agree with my opinion on it. I didn't ask for an argument, you invited yourself into one. This is a forum true but no one here wants to argue over everything that you tend to do a lot. There was nothing to originally argue over. You can have your opinion. But I didn't ask for it. But I'll drop it.

 

[looncraz]

Ugh, hopefully AIB options will be available with DVI-D and HDMI before too long. The absence of DVI-D makes the reference design 100% worthless to me (same problem with the Fury X).

The vast majority of monitors are still DVI/DVI-D, dumping that capability at this point is a REALLY dumb idea... most especially at the $200 price point with a card pretty much only destined for 1080p... which almost exclusively means DVI monitors will be in use.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Ugh, hopefully AIB options will be available with DVI-D and HDMI before too long. The absence of DVI-D makes the reference design 100% worthless to me (same problem with the Fury X).

The vast majority of monitors are still DVI/DVI-D, dumping that capability at this point is a REALLY dumb idea... most especially at the $200 price point with a card pretty much only destined for 1080p... which almost exclusively means DVI monitors will be in use.

Er no. The vast majority are actually HDMI. Which is superior to DVI. It's pretty dumb to keep using DVI exclusively if HDMI is an option. It's not even like professional monitors still use DVI only. Most have moved on with better standards. Aka HDMI and DP. DVI and VGA need to go.

 

[Kushiro]

Ugh, hopefully AIB options will be available with DVI-D and HDMI before too long. The absence of DVI-D makes the reference design 100% worthless to me (same problem with the Fury X).

The vast majority of monitors are still DVI/DVI-D, dumping that capability at this point is a REALLY dumb idea... most especially at the $200 price point with a card pretty much only destined for 1080p... which almost exclusively means DVI monitors will be in use.

There are nifty little thInga called adapters. The bandwidth of DVI is simply not enough, not to mention that most new monitors don't even have DVI and simply have DP and HDMI. Regardless of resolution.

The irony in callin something dumb.

 

[AdmiralDonut]

There are nifty little thInga called adapters. The bandwidth of DVI is simply not enough, not to mention that most new monitors don't even have DVI and simply have DP and HDMI. Regardless of resolution.

The irony in callin something dumb.

100% certain the guy meant that the majority of monitors in use at the moment are still mainly DVI, because that would make more sense than thinking he meant most monitors are still made with DVI.

 

[Kushiro]

100% certain the guy meant that the majority of monitors in use at the moment are still mainly DVI, because that would make more sense than thinking he meant most monitors are still made with DVI.

That's why I said there are nifty things called adapters. Only stated that new monitors come with DP and HDMI to further reinforce the fact that the lack of DVI is not dumb. Majority would actually be HDMI as stated by NBD. The general consumer will likely be on a standard 1080p monitor, most if not all of which would be using HDMI.

Probably better off reading my post again, a bit easier to misinterpret than Looncrazs.

 

[jimma47]

I never had a multi GPU setup and want to experience the horror first hand

Just my experience..

Aside from some very early win10 issues and one game that refuses to co-operate (World of Warships is still pretty early in development) I've not had any horror. Temps are a little higher on the top card (10 degrees or so) and obviously they use more power than a single, however they do look better as a pair IMO.

It's also a good way to upgrade if someone has lower end card atm and only a couple of hundred dollars to spare. Buy one now and buy a matching twin in a few months when they'll probably be even cheaper. A 1070 is a big investment for a lot of folks.

 

[Tolemac]

I actually welcome the Reference cards as it will be easier to get waterblocks for them over AIB

 

[barnsley]

Yeah because they didn't have a reference only launch either. It also neither competes with the 1070 so reference or not that doesn't matter

Historically Nvidia have got reference coolers on point (although I'd certainly say they've never been amazing). AMD on the other hand...

Personally I think this is a bit daft of an idea, most people don't buy reference cards unless they like the looks or need the blower type cooler. That said they will probably run cooler in Crossfire than your average non blower cooler. I'd not buy a blower card if I'm only running one/using it in a case with decent airflow.

That said, if it is indeed true that the cooler is good, the non ref cards could be excellent toys. I'm building my old ITX rig into a cheap gaming PC for my younger brother and this card was what I had in mind. My 780Ti has lost performance over time rather suspiciously and I'd rather have the same performance from a card that isn't as much of a housefire.

In short, dumb idea but hopefully it doesn't cause as much of a nightmare as the 290X.

Then don't?... You seem to already have answered your own question(s) and made up your mind regarding it.

So stop whining already...

Seriously?