TCCD/UTT Expected Speeds

[Dav0s]

Once again thanks to "Punisher" from Xtreme Systems for this excellent comparison of peoples speeds with TCCD and Winbond UTT chips.

SAMSUNG TCCD RAM CLASSIFICATION

+~300 Mhz:

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G.SKILL PC4800

(DDR600 1T) (2.5-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5), (F1-3200DSU2-512FF/1GBFF) ~ Brainpower PCB

(best TCCD in in the market, agile and powerful, "300 Mhz" are past, now 1T certified)

G.SKILL PC4800

(DDR600) (2.5-4-4-8 2T | 3-4-4-8 1T), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) (F1-3200DSU2-512LA/1GBLA) ~ Brainpower PCB

G.SKILL PC4400

(DDR550) (2.5-3-3-7), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) 512M Kit (F1-3200DSU2-512LE/1GBLE) ~ Brainpower PCB

OCZ EL PC5000 Platinum Edition DFI Special

DDR625 (3-4-4-10 1T/2T @2,85V) ~ Brainpower PCB

OCZ EL PC4800 Platinum Edition

(2,5-4-4-10 1T/2T @2,85V) ~ Brainpower PCB



OCZ EL DDR PC3700 Platinum Edition

(2-3-3-8) ~ Brainpower PCB

OCZ EL DDR PC3200 Platinum Edition rev2

(2-2-2-5) ~ Brainpower PCB



GeIL Ultra-X PC3200\PC4000\PC4400

(2-2-2-5\2,5-3-3-5\2,5-4-4-7 -1T) ~ Brainpower PCB



Team Group ASTAK

DDR600 PC4800 (3-4-4-8) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB 808

Mushkin PC4400

(2,5-4-4) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (rev. F) ~ Brainpower PCB

New Centon Advanced DDR

~ Brainpower PCB

A-Data PC4800/PC4500 Vitesta

DDR600/DDR566 - Modified JEDEC PCB

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~-300 Mhz:

G.SKILL PC4400

(DDR550) (2.5-4-4-8), PC3200 (2-2-2-5) 1GB Kit (F1-3200DSU2-512LC/1GBLC) ~ Brainpower PCB

Corsair XMS-PC4400C25

(2.5-4-4-8-1T) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB

Corsair XMS-PC3200XL Rev1.2/XLPT

(2-2-2-5-1T) ~ Brainpower PCB

Corsair XMS-PC3200XL Rev1.1

(2-2-2-5-1T)

G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550)

(2.5-4-4-8), PC3200 (2-3-3-6) (F1-3200DSU2-512LD/1GBLD) ~ Brainpower PCB

Mushkin PC3700

(2,5-4-3) --chip--> Samsung TCCD (rev. F)

PQI Turbo Memory DC PC4000

(2,5-3-3-7) --chip--> Samsung TCCD ~ Brainpower PCB

Samsung PC4000

PQI Turbo Memory DC PC3200

(2-2-2-5) ~ Brainpower PCB

Patriot PDC5123200+XBLK\PDC1G3200+XBLK

(2-2-2-5) ~ Brainpower PCB

Corsair XMS-PC3200C2 Rev4.1

(2-3-3-6-1T)

OC-WearDDR PC3200

- DDR560 CL 3-4-4-8 @ 2,8V

-300 Mhz:

Mushkin PC3200 Level II V2

(2-2-2)

TwisterPro PC3200/DDR400

(2-2-2-5)

HyperX PC 3200ULK2

(2-2-2-5-1T) (KHX 3200ULK2)

Apacer PC4000

Centon Advanced DDR

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"+~300 Mhz" = for sure over 300 Mhz, except rarity.

"~-300 Mhz" = around 300 Mhz, largely under 300 Mhz.

"-300 Mhz" = under 300 Mhz of about 5*(2,)3,4,5(,6) Mhz except rarity.

With V-RAM ~2,85V and relaxed timings.

(c) Punisher!

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Winbond UTT vs TCCD (indicative comparison, not scientific):

• Low Timings 2-2-2-X:
  
  Winbond UTT (260-265 Mhz 1T @ ~3,4V) > TCCD (235-240 Mhz 1T @ ~2,85V)
  
• Medium Timings 2,5-3-3-X:
  
  TCCD (~300 Mhz 1T @ 2,85V) > Winbond UTT (263-268 Mhz 1T @ 3,4V)
  
• High Timings 3-4-4-X:
  
  TCCD (+300 Mhz 1T/2T @ ~2,85V) > Winbond UTT (265-270 Mhz ~1T/2T @ 3,4V)
  
• Consumption (max = at which voltage they give their max):
  
  TCCD: ~2,85V (max)
  
  Winbond UTT: +3,4V (max unknown)
  

Again thanks to Punisher. This makes interesting reading.

Punisher! can be found at punisher@tribesvengeance.tv

 

[FarFarAway]

That's where its at - w00tage for my lush TCCD!! :worship:

 

[FragTek]

I should look into some of the Mushking Redline if I'm gonna run @ 237x12... I could pump some mad volts into and get some insane low timings out of it.

 

[PV5150]

:drool: :drool: Must get new ram!!!

 

[FragTek]

:drool: :drool: Must get new ram!!!

I'm considering it very very hardly... The new redline looks unbeatable if ur not gonna try and un at like 300+mhz.

 

[FarFarAway]

I'm considering it very very hardly... The new redline looks unbeatable if ur not gonna try and un at like 300+mhz.

Yeah but make sure you rig up some active cooling if you're gonna blast some volts through it...it gets HOT

 

[FragTek]

Yeah but make sure you rig up some active cooling if you're gonna blast some volts through it...it gets HOT

Already got it mate, mad fans sitting right over it, hehe. My entire case is a giant active cooler

 

[Dav0s]

i expect frag keeps his beer chilling in his comp

 

[FarFarAway]

Already got it mate, mad fans sitting right over it, hehe. My entire case is a giant active cooler

Sure I answered this...but yeah I said I forgot how frags machine is a hurricane in a box

 

[FragTek]

Sure I answered this...but yeah I said I forgot how frags machine is a hurricane in a box

It is definately that

 

[ArcTan]

there was a thread on xs somewhere saying that UTT/BH5 at 260mhz+ beats out TCCD even at 300 2.5-3-3-7

only TCCD is in front in theorhetical benchmarks like sandra

 

[FragTek]

there was a thread on xs somewhere saying that UTT/BH5 at 260mhz+ beats out TCCD even at 300 2.5-3-3-7

only TCCD is in front in theorhetical benchmarks like sandra

Well the fact is that BH5 and UTT can't do 300+ no matter what the timings are.... Which makes TCCD the dominant IC for anyone that needs that speed.

 

[ArcTan]

Well the fact is that BH5 and UTT can't do 300+ no matter what the timings are.... Which makes TCCD the dominant IC for anyone that needs that speed.

I meant comparing both overall

BH/UTT at 260 2-2-2-x will beat TCCD at 300 2.5-3-3-7 and TCCD doing 300 withh those timings is pretty hard to achieve

 

[Dav0s]

it depends what benchmark you do....

a clock speed benchmark would be better with the TCCD at 300 s your CPU would be higher clocekd.

a memory benchmark would have better results with tighter timings, even at lower speeds.

 

[FragTek]

I meant comparing both overall

BH/UTT at 260 2-2-2-x will beat TCCD at 300 2.5-3-3-7 and TCCD doing 300 withh those timings is pretty hard to achieve

You're comparing two different things completely, lol. Your system performance would be much greater overall if you were to run the BH5 @ 260 and the TCCD @ 300 1:1 at the same multi.