Swiftech H220 AIO Review

Hello Mr Logan,
iv's bean watching the youtube channel for a long time.
in this review there's some things i'm missing.

You used to do the testing live in front of camera which left little room
for doubts, or any issues of review trust , but no more.
It was important to mention this swiftech fans are slower & quieter
but you didn't mentioned it.
and the video felt like halfed handed unlike older videos.

and yeah i'm surprise/disappointed by this results..
but more then you don't do the testing like you used to, in-front of the camera, for our viewing pleasure.

Since corsair sponsored you, yes there was talk about impartiality
toward competing brands, and to be honest there war couple reviews
when I head doubts myself.

still not sure what to think of this,
I'll wait for more reviews to feel they confirm this one.

PS maybe you one day do a system build of custom water cooler,
with inaudible fans/pump/res'. (up to 900rpm fans)

I'm so tired of fan noise, even from 1200rpm top notch TY-140 fans
Just cant stand the damn noise any more. (must be an age thing^_^)

I enjoy your reviews and will keep watching them
Best of Luck
YD.
 
I was expecting this o beat out the h100i by a couple of degrees???

The videos at CES showed real time by a couple of different reviewers showed the temps were about the same between the h100i to 2-3 degrees cooler on the swiftech using the same components.

While I dont doubt the testing methodology, you think maybe you received a poor unit? As in not the norm?

I have an h100i by the way and other than the noises (which were fixed with different fans) and the slightly buggy software (main reason for going h100i) have been pretty happy with it. :)
 
You know, I wonder if people are looking at this product in slightly the wrong way. Sure, it's a little expensive (we suspect) and it doesn't perform quite as well as the cheaper H100i - which is certainly the benchmark for this type of kit currently.

Picture this...

I want to give water cooling a go, but I'm fearful of the cost of screwing up. I could lose my £400 GPU, £250 CPU, £300 motherboard...the list goes on. When you've not go the experience, these thoughts are only natural.

I check out the H100i - it has great reviews, isn't too pricy in the scheme of things and will certainly do the job of cooling my CPU. I could get that, fit it easily and be done - risk is minimal as nothing should leak unless I get really unlucky. However, if I start with cooling my CPU, what about my (far noisier) GPU? That thing would benefit from watercooling too no doubt. Thing is, I'm fair to scared to jump in with both feet and build my own bespoke WC solution, I've neither the experience nor confidence for that.

Ooo, what's this? The Swiftech H220? Ok, it's basically a sealed-loop CPU cooler, it's not that pretty but performs OK if not quite as well as the H100i. Hmm, it's a little expensive too, but it'll certainly do the job. Plus, I can expand on it, maybe add in cooling for my GPU at some point - once I'm a little more confident.

So, I get my Swiftech H220, I fit it easily enough with only minor knuckle scraping. Now, the device didn't get the best scores out there vs. the likes of the H100i, however it's so much better than my old stock Intel cooler! It's quieter at load and the temps are much lower. I love this kit!.

Here I am having taken my first baby step in water cooling. It wasn't so hard, I'm happy with the results as it's made a big difference compared to what I had before upgrading. My comfort zone for upgrading my PC has just expanded into very basic watercooling.

What next? Well, my PC is running GREAT, I've overclocked my CPU more than I was ever brave enough to do before due to temperatures. Now I've applied a small OC to my GPU too, which works great but the noise is really starting to bug me.

Ah, my loop can be expanded remember! My newly extended comfort zone means I start doing my homework on GPU blocks, fixtures and fittings etc. Based on my new found confidence with my prior experience, and the reading I've done, I pick up a good basic GPU block and a few accessories to let me expand my loop.

I get my bits, customise my existing loop plumbing in my GPU as well. I do some testing...wow, my GPU is soo much cooler than it was on the stock air cooler, plus it's much quieter too. This is lovely. My CPU temps have gone up a bit, but still far lower than I had before & my PC is very quiet with the side on. My comfort zone expands once again & so does my knowledge and confidence. Wow, I've just fitted my own GPU block, run some custom hosing and customised my H220. Pop goes my water cooling cherry!

I run with this build for a while, happy with my much cooler (than stock) and much quieter (than stock) PC. The thing is, my confidence and experience have given me the water cooling bug! :)

Ok, one GPU just isn't cutting it for me any more in Cryfield Invasion 4, I'm gonna get me another GPU...hmm, my old Swiftech H220 has done me proud, but I don't think it can manage cooling another device...maybe I'll get a 2nd rad? Maybe just get a larger one? I have options here, but I also have more confidence & experience...

Screw it, I'm going 100% custom, I can do this!

Ok, maybe this is a daft little story, but I very much see the Swiftech H220 and kit like it to be the little pebble that starts the land-slide so to speak. We can build up our confidence with a near risk-free starter kit, maybe even expand on that slightly before going for it with full custom water.

It's very easy for those of us with our experiences from those early attempts to know we should have just done C rather than trying A & B first, but it's those very experiences that gave us the confidence to go to C in the first place. THIS is why I think such kit as the H220 has its place, it can get more people water cooling. Yes, they'd be better off going custom from the start, there's no doubt about that, but without the first baby steps maybe they'd never actually get that far.

Personally, my first "water cooling" experience in my own PC was with an Antec Kuhler 620 close-loop system. It was one of the first and worked really well vs. STOCK cooling. I only got it for space reasons really as my prior air cooler didn't fit with my ram. The 620 was dirt cheap - actually cheaper than my old air cooler - so I went for it & it worked well.

However, my first jump into water cooling proper was a gigantic leap really. I went full external loop with over-kill cooling using parallel flow, which was a fairly new thing in the community back then. I had a great time building that and, in a modified form, it's still doing me proud now. I took the leap as I'd gained some experience helping a friend build his own loop, so my comfort zone was expanded because of that. I also benefitted from some excellent advice here and from the mate I'd helped out previously.

So yes, I largely just jumped in myself, but I can see how such expandable kits can really help people get into water cooling proper.

Anyway, the usual ramble from me lol.

Scoob.
 
Move the hoses off the gpu!!!!

The hoses are longer for compatibilty with running the rad on the bottom or from of larger cases like the 800D or 900D. It's also handy if you simply want to add a gpu to the loop because you may not need to buy new tubing.

This pump has over 4 times the power of an Asetek/Cool-it product, so why would you run it at full speed to compare noise? You didn't even bother to hook it up via PWM. If you drop the speed to an equivilant flow rate of an H100i or whatever, the noise will be INAUDIBLE compared to the fans, and MUCH quieter than the competing units. You can also hook up the fans to the PWM splitter and run it off a separate header, so there's no reason not to do the same with fans, and adjust their speed accordingly, to the same speed of the Corsair's when comparing noise and performance.

I've read over 15 reviews for this product, and yours is the ONLY one that is negative.
 
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Itss a 7770 it doesnt even get warm to the touch at idle.

I dont care what other reviews say, these are my results, I base my review on MY results.

Ive been doing this long enough now that Im used to upsetting people, if this happens with this one so be it....... Unless all reviews are on the same kit by the same person you cant compare them.
 
Itss a 7770 it doesnt even get warm to the touch at idle.

I dont care what other reviews say, these are my results, I base my review on MY results.

Ive been doing this long enough now that Im used to upsetting people, if this happens with this one so be it....... Unless all reviews are on the same kit by the same person you cant compare them.

Fair enough. But it still doesn't explain why you would compare the noise levels of an H100i pump flowing .25 GPM to the H220 pump flowing 1 GPM.

Also, why is there different speed settings reviewed for the Corsair and other units but not for the H220?
 
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Ah go on Tom, be a sheep, it'll make your life easier! ;)

Incidentally, the back (top when in the case) of my 680 GTX on air didn't get remotely warm to the touch when I was running Prime...it was at idle after all with just the CPU working. If the GPU were to be worked it'd get a little warm for sure, but not at idle. The 7770 is a fair bit cooler that a 680 by all accounts...

Seriously though, all we can ask from any reviewer is that they report what they see. He's not said this is a BAD product - it won Silver after all (potentially subject to the final UK RRP) and that's certainly better than average. It's just that in the H100i there's a better pure closed-loop CPU cooler on the market. Swiftech are trying to do something that offers a little more to the potential customer, which is commendable, but equally they don't appear to have quite nailed it just yet vs. their perceived competition.

I stand by what I said in my earlier post about this product potentially being a spring board for the budding water coolers though. It might have been an attractive product to me, if it'd been available when I was starting.

Scoob.
 
Agree with this review tbh.

I was sure it would perform similarly to the h100i, there's only so much you can do with pumps and fans for a slim 240 rad.

I've been saying all along the expandability is a big buckletload of gimmick. In all honesty I'd guess less than 5% of people that buy one of these will take it apart. These things are bought for ease-of-use / scared of custom water in the first place. I mean what do you get?: an ugly cpu block, a loud pump and a skinny rad :rolleyes: rofl.
 
I redacted a lot of my previous posts; I respect that you're a reviewer and put a bit of time in these reviews, and that your results are your results. I still think either you got a bum unit, or bad TIM contact, or something, but I'll chalk that up to irrelevant since those can be questions of all reviews. I do feel that you have some rather strong opinions against the very premise this kit was built upon - expanding an AIO solution, and that's something we disagree on. So I'll just leave it at that. Have a good day.
 
Oh yes, to us who've experience of "proper" water cooling the expandability is indeed a bit of a gimmick. Still, if it does encourage people to take a bit of a leap then that's a good thing in my book. Plus, you can only improve on it with bespoke stuff, which gives the ego a bit of a boost when you do make the jump.

Scoob.
 
Agree with this review tbh.

I was sure it would perform similarly to the h100i, there's only so much you can do with pumps and fans for a slim 240 rad.

I've been saying all along the expandability is a big buckletload of gimmick. In all honesty I'd guess less than 5% of people that buy one of these will take it apart. These things are bought for ease-of-use / scared of custom water in the first place. I mean what do you get?: an ugly cpu block, a loud pump and a skinny rad :rolleyes: rofl.

From what I've on other forums, I can tell you that much more than that will be expanding upon this kit. From one forum alone, I've seen dozens of people express intent on picking up this kit as soon as it hits the shelves, with half of them planning to expand upon it immediately, myself included. I had an Apogee Drive II previously and loved it, and even with 2 blocks, a dual bay res, and dual 480 rads, it was near silent and never ran above 2K RPMs. The H80 pump I had on my 2550K was not nearly as quiet when it was revved up.

I got rid of the AD2 to get this unit because the H220 is a better bargain for my build, since I planned on getting the same MCR220-QP-RES rad and Helix PWN Fans for my new build, since I'm going SFF, which is where these products really shine.
 
Hi Tom,
I really expected , like you , that this would out perform the h100i.
I guess I'll stick with my h100i until I get up the money , a better case and the confidence to try a custom watercooling loop.
 
Hi Tom,
I really expected , like you , that this would out perform the h100i.
I guess I'll stick with my h100i until I get up the money , a better case and the confidence to try a custom watercooling loop.

On that note, you could always get a second, third, fourth, fifteenth opionion. Most are very different than Tom's.
 
From what I've on other forums, I can tell you that much more than that will be expanding upon this kit. From one forum alone, I've seen dozens of people express intent on picking up this kit as soon as it hits the shelves, with half of them planning to expand upon it immediately, myself included.

That's good news, maybe the increased demand for watercooling products will bring down prices for me rofl.

Oh yes, to us who've experience of "proper" water cooling the expandability is indeed a bit of a gimmick. Still, if it does encourage people to take a bit of a leap then that's a good thing in my book. Plus, you can only improve on it with bespoke stuff, which gives the ego a bit of a boost when you do make the jump.

Scoob.

As above, but on the other hand it also allows people an 'easy' route into watercooling that's comparable although easier than 'kits'. I think if people do start taking these apart without proper research we're in for some lulsy forum posts about how everything has gone wrong or "rawrawr h220 won't cool m cpu and gpu!" etc
 
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True , good point . I will watch and read more reviews before I decide , but I think a custom loop will perform better.
 
A custom loop will perform better, but you also have to take into account cost versus performance. For those that will require assistance on adding other blocks and or radiators you can always ask for help on the Swiftech website. We have customer support from Monday through Friday from 8 am to 4:30 PM PST. As a part of Swiftech's Customer Support Team I will help you with my own knowledge of water cooling so that you can get the most out of your H220 kit.
 
Also Tom, what were the methods used for the Thermal paste? The Corsair units come with it pre-applied, but you've had the H100i for a while by my undersatnding, so what thermal paste did you use to replace the original TIM? With as much as 10*C or more differences seen in Thermal paste alone, why is there no mention of TIM at all in this review?
 
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