Ryzen and RAM questions :)

[RobM]

Can one of you nice chaps with Ryzen please tell me about RAM speeds
I am seeing conflicting data on the tinterweb of things, and have got myself rather confused.
I am about to upgrade to a Ryzen 1600 (My missus Christmas present for me) and would like to get as much as I can for the limited budget.
I know that Ryzen now supports upto 3200 speeds OC but is that slower ram pushed faster meaning cheaper options or is it the ddr3200 ram used in xmp mode?

Basically I am asking can I get something like 2800, 3000 or even 2666 and push them upto 3200? and if so which RAM sticks would you suggest (2x8gb)

 

[BigDaddyKong]

I bought G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) F4-3200C14D-16GTZ. They have worked great at launch.

As far as buying cheaper ram and overclocking it, that is a crap shoot. I know I can't raise my ram speeds or I get errors pretty quickly. That does not mean it can't be done, but its going to take a lot of time and testing. Plus I want something that just works.

 

[MacLeod]

I went with these Corsair 3200 MHz sticks and they're working just fine. I agree that it's better to just buy RAM that is sold to operate at a certain speed. Just like with CPU's, overclocking RAM isn't guaranteed. These Corsair sticks are as fast as you could overclock anything anyways and they are about $20-30 more expensive than a 3000 or slower set, it's worth it to me. First time I fired up my rig, I went to the BIOS, set the speed to 3200 in just a couple clicks and haven't thought about it sense. Ryzen really benefits from faster RAM so again, it's worth it to get the faster speeds and 3200 seems to be the sweet spot in terms of pretty much all major motherboards will run fine on it and it's fast enough to really show some performance benefits.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072LX99L9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[Excalabur50]

I too just went with 3200 ram and as Tom has said in many of his videos it's the sweet spot and I must say mine has worked flawlessly

 

[BigDaddyKong]

Just make sure you check out the QVL list for you mobo before you buy.

 

[RobM]

I went with 3000 corsair sticks solely because that kit was the only way to keep my bill to 500£, would have gone with ocuk but they were not able to bring the price down close enough for me to order.
Ordered yesterday arrived today
Now if I can only persuade the missus to not wrap them up lol

 

[GAMINGKING3]

i went with 4 Gskillz flare x runs so smooth

 

[AlienALX]

3000 is the sweet spot. You do gain a little extra going from 3000-3200 but only a little. The main difference is going from 2133-3000. Once you get to 3400 it makes pretty much no difference over 3200. However 3000 is more than enough to extract a good chunk of performance

I wouldn't have bought Corsair, though. Gskill is the most compatible.

 

[Dawelio]

3000 is the sweet spot. You do gain a little extra going from 3000-3200 but only a little. The main difference is going from 2133-3000. Once you get to 3400 it makes pretty much no difference over 3200. However 3000 is more than enough to extract a good chunk of performance

I wouldn't have bought Corsair, though. Gskill is the most compatible.

So what is it? 3200 or 3000 is the sweet spot?... Everyone says differently? I have 3000 kit in my PC and been thinking of getting a 3200 just because everyone has gone that and says it’s the sweet spot.

 

[AlienALX]

So what is it? 3200 or 3000 is the sweet spot?... Everyone says differently? I have 3000 kit in my PC and been thinking of getting a 3200 just because everyone has gone that and says it’s the sweet spot.

3000 is more than good enough. You won't notice the extra 200. And no, don't buy 3200. If the price was 1/10th? yeah. But RAM prices are ridiculous ATM.

You're fine. Maybe see a Doc about the OCD but yeah, fine

 

[Dawelio]

3000 is more than good enough. You won't notice the extra 200. And no, don't buy 3200. If the price was 1/10th? yeah. But RAM prices are ridiculous ATM.

You're fine. Maybe see a Doc about the OCD but yeah, fine

Ah okay, thanks for the clarification dude. And you’re right, my OCD sometimes gets my head in

 

[AlienALX]

Ah okay, thanks for the clarification dude. And you’re right, my OCD sometimes gets my head in

I've noticed. Just stop worrying and enjoy your rig

 

[AverageNinja]

I run my RAM at 2933 atm (have some stability issues at 3066 and 3200), and I notice no difference compared to 3200, aside from marginally higher scores in Cinebench. I wouldn't worry about it

 

[AlienALX]

I run my RAM at 2933 atm (have some stability issues at 3066 and 3200), and I notice no difference compared to 3200, aside from marginally higher scores in Cinebench. I wouldn't worry about it

Yeah it's only in super productivity heavy CPU use you will see any gains. Gaming rounds off around 3000.

 

[RobM]

My RAM only runs at 2933 have tried to oc it to 3200 but not really played with the settings to that much as I am not so sure of what I am doing

 

[RobM]

So I now have my Ram running at its stock xmp profile 3000 16 17 17 35
Played about with tighter timings yesterday 15 16 16 35 stable
today 14 15 15 34 stable

 

[Dawelio]

I run my RAM at 2933 atm (have some stability issues at 3066 and 3200), and I notice no difference compared to 3200, aside from marginally higher scores in Cinebench. I wouldn't worry about it

Yeah it's only in super productivity heavy CPU use you will see any gains. Gaming rounds off around 3000.

Which I personally never used, every really used them once when I tested my CPU of a "fun" overclocking testing ^_^

 

[Arne Saknussemm]

I'll just throw this out there...the question is not what frequency is the sweet spot but what IC

Anything Samsung B die and Ryzen gets along with it like a house on fire....and single sided single rank

Avoid timings that differ...like 15-16-16 etc...these are often Hynix ICs and not well loved unless low frequency high latency (not loved...tolerated)

Ryzen also like a bit of frequency so 3200 is indeed a sweet spot.

Basically since AMD is giving these processors away at a great price...use some of the savings and get good RAM

G.skill Trident Z 14-14-14-34 32GB 4x8 for example

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/