WYP
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RTX 3090 and RTX 3080 memory capacities confirmed - Expect BIG frame buffers
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I'd of thought it was blindingly obvious...to annoy the early 3080 adopters with a refreshed 3080 Super/Ti launch in 2021, with more VRAM and probably a few more Cuda Cores.
A 14GB differential gives them the room to do just that, rather than any actual need for 24GB on the 3090.
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AlienALX
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It won't be a small speed bump.
The 3080 has been rumoured to be 10-15% faster than the Ti in non RTX workloads.
The 3090 has apparently been reported to be about 38% faster.
Unless you care about RT then the 3080 is not the card for 2080Ti owners. If you want the mega performance bump you go 3090. Nvidia are not stupid.
Of course Jen will talk poo as he always does and make it all about RTX, but underneath that there will be real world performance. And selling your 2080Ti for £550 or whatever some people have been selling them for (nutters) and buying a 3080 is a really silly idea. Mostly because it will only massively improve RT, and that isn't saying very much given how few RT titles we have.
I will be skipping this gen completely, given I don't think RT is all that and the 2080Ti is more than enough (like stupid more than enough) for anything at 1440p. And it will be for ages to come, because the consoles have much less VRAM and the games will all need to work and run on those first.
From what I have heard there won't be a Ti (they are usually safety measures) so if you are waiting for that you will have a long wait. It's 3080 and 3090, possibly Super cards lower down the stack if AMD come with anything half decent.
Excalabur50
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I suspect they're keeping the 3080Ti just in case the new AMD cards are good then they can go bam here's a $1000us card with more ram more power at the same price type of business
Avet
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QUADRO cards do use same silicon and PCBs as gaming cards but they have ECC Memory. Also with QUADRO cards you pay for Tech Support and software validation. Tose cards are guaranteed to work with 3ds MAX for example and all bugs will be fixed. If you use Geforce card for 3ds MAX it will work fine but if you report bug to Nvidia or Auto Desk they will just ignore you.
AlienALX
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I think Ti is gone. It's Super now dude.
Excalabur50
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You're probably right dude, but whatever they call it they're definitely holding one back.
AlienALX
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I don't think they are.
Apparently the 3090 is a card that failed to be a Quadro because of power consumption.
This is probably the first release in ages where Jen seems a bit rattled and is going to launch some serious power.
They might hold back another 10% on top of the 3090, and we will likely see Super cards as yields improve but yeah I don't think they are holding back much of anything.
Like I say, Jen seems a bit rattled. I say that because these cards are apparently so much faster than Turing (that bit remains to be seen and may just be hype).
AlienALX
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They will know what they are doing. I bet they know exactly what AMD have. If not? they probably would have waited for AMD to launch first.
Yeah, they will likely hold something back, but I don't think it will be as much as usual as I think Jen is a bit rattled with this big Navi. Like I say, their experts will understand it all perfectly.
Avet
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24GB on 3090 is epic for rendering. RTX Titan was too expensive, but 1500 for 3090 is a bargain. Nvidia will sell every one that they make both to gamers and professionals. AMD has nothing for professional market. CUDA and OptiX are just too powerfull.
10GB on 3080 will be just perfect for 1440p 144Hz gaming which should become standard in the next year or two. Monitors did come down in price, finaly.
Whatever AMD has Nvidia have them covered. And they always have the option of Super variants once production process matures.
AMD might pack a little bigger punch this time but I expect Nvidia to still have 70-80% of the sales with new cards. And also they are first on the market. Let us just hope AMD has good margins on consoles so they can strike back in the future.
10GB on 3080 will be just perfect for 1440p 144Hz gaming which should become standard in the next year or two. Monitors did come down in price, finaly.
Whatever AMD has Nvidia have them covered. And they always have the option of Super variants once production process matures.
AMD might pack a little bigger punch this time but I expect Nvidia to still have 70-80% of the sales with new cards. And also they are first on the market. Let us just hope AMD has good margins on consoles so they can strike back in the future.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
€1500 is a bargain?
This is where I have the issue now. We are at a point where people actually think that £1500 GPU is a good deal...
We are talking about an add in device for gaming. Only part of a system environment. Inflation excluded, we are way value "acceptable".
I had hoped the 2080ti costs were due to clawing back vast R&D losses. However You would think that technology like this becoming more efficient should have normalised.
Avet
Active member
It is. Compared to Titan RTX and QUADRO RTX 6000 it is a no brainer purchase for a production system.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
This !
I refuse to buy a GPU, Again, That is north of £800, The prices are getting ludicrous and Nvidia can try to make all the excuses they want but every 2080 Ti that sold at £1200 was sold with a fairly large chunk of profit.
I know I'm quite likely piddling in the wind but I really hope AMD and even Intel start coming out with powerful GPU's that start to bring the prices back down to sane levels because the only reason Nvidia are selling GPU's at these prices is because there is no competition at that level.
Dawelio
Active member
I get what everyone is saying here and I'm with you all, todays and for a few years now have been insane and will likely just increase.
Although going on forums and whining about it, won't make a difference at all, unfortunately.
Nvidia doesn't care at all, which many of you have said multiple times already. They are a multi billion dollar business, one of the largest tech companies in the world. As long as they make money and profit, they don't care.
At the end of the day and in all honesty, no one in here does either. Either you buy a GPU with your own money or you don't. Simple as that.
No one cares if you buy a Ford instead of a Tesla. Same thing, you buy what you want to buy.
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