Retail staff reports high levels of mining performance on AMD's RX Vega

[WYP]

This is not good news for gamers...



Read more on Vega's rumoured mining performance.

 

[Wraith]

Not a good start for anyone at launch but just think about the lovely cheap abused cards that'll be going in a few months time when the currency crashes. :lol:

 

[WYP]

Not a good start for anyone at launch but just think about the lovely cheap abused cards that'll be going in a few months time when the currency crashes. :lol:

I think we should get TTL towers mining so that the crash happens sooner.

 

[looz]

Not a good start for anyone at launch but just think about the lovely cheap abused cards that'll be going in a few months time when the currency crashes. :lol:

On that note, is there any evidence that mining is actually harmful?

To me it doesn't sound too logical, since if anything, they'll be running at a stable temperature, avoiding any wear from thermal expansion and contraction.

And of course miners have the incentive to not let them thermal throttle either.

 

[AlienALX]

On that note, is there any evidence that mining is actually harmful?

To me it doesn't sound too logical, since if anything, they'll be running at a stable temperature, avoiding any wear from thermal expansion and contraction.

And of course miners have the incentive to not let them thermal throttle either.

It is harmful, trust me. It's not just that the card is running 100% all of the time it's also moisture in the air. I have seen ex mining cards and they make nothing. Seen 290s sell for £40 because they squealed and the solder joints had turned white from going dry. All that heat cooks the flux and makes it dry out and harden etc. The black PCB had gone white too.

So yeah, it buggers hardware. Well, not so much the hardware but the components. When Nvidia and AMD design VRMs they do not design them to run at 100% all of the time. Even when gaming your GPU gets a few breaks from cut scenes/loading etc.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Definitely ruins hardware


So i guess AMD were right. They delayed the launch to prevent the mining crowd from destroying there launch. Gave them even more time for stock buildup but it probably won't help. Miners will no doubt gobble these up. I just hope some gamers get some.

 

[Bartacus]

Does mining require more RAM? I heard it was sensitive to ram SPEED, but what about ram AMOUNT? Just wondering if AMD could release some lower ram models, like 4GB for the mining crowd?

 

[AlienALX]

Does mining require more RAM? I heard it was sensitive to ram SPEED, but what about ram AMOUNT? Just wondering if AMD could release some lower ram models, like 4GB for the mining crowd?

The Fury X would not have been making £400 recently if that were the case. I'd have sold mine, but what would I have got? a 1070? not worth the hassle lol.

 

[Korreborg]

I have said it before It's AMD and the power companies that have invented crypto currencies

 

[Bob_Kelso]

This is really bad news. State the obvious I know but damn it I've been so long.

 

[AlienALX]

This is really bad news. State the obvious I know but damn it I've been so long.

I would start saving. For a 1080, 1080Ti etc. They are the only GPUs at the moment that represent any sort of perf per $.

AMD could easily stop this with a driver but greed prevails, and us gamers get screwed.

 

[garih]

Why would they stop it, They already shift a lot of Silicone to the consoles and a lot of cards to the miners. It is good business. gives the company resources to keep developing, and ensures AMD survive.

 

[Piskeante]

here in Spain you get 2 years warranty. By the time it breaks , the card has already paid itself. and if it breaks before those 2 years, than RMA and that's it, so i don't see the issue anywhere.

 

[AlienALX]

Why would they stop it, They already shift a lot of Silicone to the consoles and a lot of cards to the miners. It is good business. gives the company resources to keep developing, and ensures AMD survive.

Unfortunately it makes you look greedy and that you are prepared to completely screw over your loyal gaming audience. What's going to happen when mining crashes? they'll come running straight back to us wanting to keep them in business.

 

[ImprovizoR]

As someone who's happy to game at 1080p 60fps I don't care as long as miners leave the 400 and 500 series alone. I wanted to get one of those, but not for 500 euros.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Well I guess this also indicates how truly powerful Vega is as a computer card. GCN really is and always has been a compute monster. Which explains why AMD with there first actual big HPC card we're able to make a 1Petaflop server rack

 

[JaffaKree]

It is harmful, trust me.

So yeah, it buggers hardware.

Yet the open air data center I work for has had Intel Xeon servers, Quadro gpus, AMD Interlagos and a rack of nvidia Fermi that are full load 24/7 since 2011-2014 and they are fine.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Yet the open air data center I work for has had Intel Xeon servers, Quadro gpus, AMD Interlagos and a rack of nvidia Fermi that are full load 24/7 since 2011-2014 and they are fine.

And this is comparable how? In a server environment you have many controlled factors and they are treated well with good optimized software.
Mining is no such thing. It's 16 GPUs crammed next to each other running far hotter than in a server environment using software that is not as nearly optimized. Not to mention they are treated like crap. Thrown around once they lose barely any performance, trashed if they can't hold a high OC, running from a PSU that for sure is less quality than the generators in a data center, causing more ripple which will kill any electronic.

Yeah cards can last a long time with usually just a fan replacement. However I don't think you understand the lengths Miners will go to... They have rented Boeing 747's for christ sake to ship massive amounts of cards. They do pretty much anything.

 

[AlienALX]

Yet the open air data center I work for has had Intel Xeon servers, Quadro gpus, AMD Interlagos and a rack of nvidia Fermi that are full load 24/7 since 2011-2014 and they are fine.

And a rack of GPUs. I gather you mean rack as in a rack rack? where the GPUs have a shedload of fans in front of them running like a jet engine? Your data center wouldn't happen to be climate controlled too would it?

The difference between a data center and most mining set ups is like a proper farmer with a field growing crops, compared to a criminal who rents a house and turns it into a weed farm.

 

[leon226]

I call bull on that one, vega FE is the same but only mined at 31mhs, also stating a wide range like 70-100mhs is very suspicious, one can only state a correct number after testing vega, not a huge gap like this.